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    [ON TOPIC]People should also remember that the chinese people growing and skinning these animals for their fur most likely live in pretty poor conditions and don't have too many other jobs to choose from. It's the same as vegetarians complaining about other people eating meat..

    Yeah, I wonder why do those sick bastards in africa etc. eat meat if they even manage to get any? Can't they just go to their local supermarket and buy some vegetables and soy (or w/e crap vegetarians use to replace meat) instead, geez.

    It's so easy to complain about things like this when you live in good conditions and you can choose what to eat and when to eat it and you can study so you'll be able to do the kind of work you want. I doubt those people's life long dream was to end up skinning animals alive. [/ON TOPIC]

    I'm not sure if PETA is exactly related to the topic, but I hate the damn retarded organization so much I'll write something about it too.

    Animals are not equal to humans. Or how many chickens (or any other animals) do you see doing anything else than eating, shitting, sleeping and fucking? Perhaps your dog can bring you a stick back if you throw it but that's just because it's hoping to get a snack or something out of it. I'm pretty sure that if chickens had evolved to the point where we are now before us they'd be shooting us down and making shoes out of us..

    Another thing that makes me wonder is why are people so againts animals living in captivity(sp)? In nature they'd have to fight for every meal or they'll starve, be on guard all the time or some other animal comes by and kills them and so on. In captivity they don't have anything to fear, food is brought right in front of their face, and so on.

    Then comparing those huge facilities (can't remember the word) full of chickens, pigs, cows or w/e to the holocaust(sp?) just makes me /facepalm. The jews killed had dreams and hopes, a family, social connections and so on. Animals don't have any of that. Their #1 interest is food and sex. They don't think or have any actual feelings.

    Also, if we gave animals equal rights it'd lead to a few things like:

    1. We'd run out of food as no-one would do anything about the animals, so there'd be fuckloads of animals popping up as we couldn't kill them which would lead to them eating all our precious grass and vegetables.
    2. Most animals would end up in jail in no time as their equal rights would include equal laws too, so we'd have jails full of animals that were put there for pissing and shitting in public, stealing, murder (some animals eat other animals to survive which would be murder) and so on, so we'd end up having to kill them anyway.
    3. Animals would be everywhere so gl getting anywhere with your car when there's 7 cows blocking the road.

    Kind of a long ramble but I was in a bit of a hurry, correct me if I'm wrong about anything etc.

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    i didnt say that they should have equal rights
    all i was saying is that they should be killed before they are skinned
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    1. would you like to have your skin pulled off you while your alive with broken bones
    2. they would probably spend more time trying to stop them from struggling that it would take to whack them on the back of the neck with a hammer or something

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    Those poor animals! Why?
    damn the fur industry.....
    I donate to PETA anyways .

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    Quit freaking saying 'WELL HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAS BE SKINNED ALIVE LOLOL IM A RETARD DUUUDUDHHHHH'

    1) People have been skinned alive, Japanese did it as torture during the WW2. They did it for no beneficial gain. These people have to do it because they need the money from fur.

    QUIT FREAKING SAYING 'WTF WHY DONT THEY KILL IT FIRST IM A RETARD DUHHRHUUHHRUHHUDUDUUHH'

    2) WE DONT KNOW why they don't kill it first. There could be loads of reasons why they don't kill said animals first! We dont know because we dont have to do it. Its all well saying its sick, inhumane and w/e else you want to insult these people with, but they are forced to do it. I fail to see how they think that it is fun. This is just their way of life.

    Seriousley, come up with some better stuff than 'Why don't they kill it first' and 'How would you like to be skinned alive'

    EDIT: kingstun, your a retard, no offense intended. The money you donate will never reach those animals, ever. They are just shock tactics to get fools like you to donate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuttleu View Post
    1. would you like to have your skin pulled off you while your alive with broken bones
    2. they would probably spend more time trying to stop them from struggling that it would take to whack them on the back of the neck with a hammer or something
    I'm not an animal, it's a completely different thing. I don't know if you want to think you're on the same level with a chicken or something but I sure as hell know I'm not.

    Not sure how much effort stopping them from struggling really takes, depends on the size of the animals, I didn't check the site or any vids, not that I'd be even remotely shocked by animal skinning, but I just cba to even look at PETA's site as PETA people are just a bunch of ugly, socially crippled people with a twisted world view and nobody else but their animals like them.

    E: kingstun, that's really sad. That money will most likely go to some crazy person sitting in a cage screaming at children in a bloody pig suit. PETA just finds the most extreme cruelty towards animals and displays it as if every animal (except their own 27 cats per member) in the world is treated that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoF View Post
    I'm not an animal, it's a completely different thing. I don't know if you want to think you're on the same level with a chicken or something but I sure as hell know I'm not.

    Not sure how much effort stopping them from struggling really takes, depends on the size of the animals, I didn't check the site or any vids, not that I'd be even remotely shocked by animal skinning, but I just cba to even look at PETA's site as PETA people are just a bunch of ugly, socially crippled people with a twisted world view and nobody else but their animals like them.

    E: kingstun, that's really sad. That money will most likely go to some crazy person sitting in a cage screaming at children in a bloody pig suit. PETA just finds the most extreme cruelty towards animals and displays it as if every animal (except their own 27 cats per member) in the world is treated that way.
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    EDIT: I watched that video and wasn't shocked at all. Much worse happens to humans in the world to be honest, its just noone gives a frick about that happening to humans do they? Animals are more important to protect than all of those people living in poverty who live in worse and more squalid conditions than that slowly starving to death. Yeah, isn't that fair?
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    Animals serve no purpose than feeding us, humans except the cows in new zeland who are farting hole on the ozone thingy.

    Animals are usueless if they do not feed us. If we can exploit their fur why not ? THEY ARE JUST ANIMALS. AND NOBODY CARES WETHER THEY ARE ALIVE OR NOT WHEN ITS DONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr D. Dervish View Post
    AND NOBODY CARES WETHER THEY ARE ALIVE OR NOT WHEN ITS DONE.
    Look around you; a lot of people do. PETA does. A lot of people in this thread do.

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    Idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullzeye95 View Post
    Look around you; a lot of people do. PETA does. A lot of people in this thread do.
    Peta and a few people on this thread <> Everybody

    Seriousley, most people would not agree with what is going on, but they wouldn't give a shit about it either. PETA are terrorists, they are illegal and moreover, they exaggerate for shock and money.

    PETA do what they do for money. It is human greed, they want money, most of that money that is donated goes to them not to the animals.. Don't be so naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torrent of Flame View Post
    Peta and a few people on this thread <> Everybody

    Seriousley, most people would not agree with what is going on, but they wouldn't give a shit about it either. PETA are terrorists, they are illegal and moreover, they exaggerate for shock and money.

    PETA do what they do for money. It is human greed, they want money, most of that money that is donated goes to them not to the animals.. Don't be so naive.
    Tho that's the company of the PETA, most the people who actually get their hands dirty care.


    My view on this is that they should kill the animals, the pain is unnecessary.

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    I would like to point out to all of those saying it would be easier to kill them before skinning them, you are right. That is why they do, in fact, kill (or at least make them unconcious, like I said before, the movement you see is not concious movement) them before they skin them. You're saying hit them in the back of the neck or something before they skin them, did you not see the dude pick one up and fucking whack the ground like it was hammertime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0b0t1 View Post
    I would like to point out to all of those saying it would be easier to kill them before skinning them, you are right. That is why they do, in fact, kill (or at least make them unconcious, like I said before, the movement you see is not concious movement) them before they skin them. You're saying hit them in the back of the neck or something before they skin them, did you not see the dude pick one up and fucking whack the ground like it was hammertime?
    Yup. If the people bothered to READ what had been written, they would find out that being twated on the ground kills most of them, just not all of the time. Have you noticed that they only decided to show the alive ones being skinned? but never actually showed any dead ones being skinned on the video. Hmmm. Exaggerating again PETA?
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    That wouldn't be allowed. Why?
    It's simply wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magiccape View Post
    That wouldn't be allowed. Why?
    It's simply wrong.
    How do you judge what is right and what is wrong in poor living standards like these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ejjman1 View Post
    How do you judge what is right and what is wrong in poor living standards like these people?
    Right and wrong don't change depending on where or when you are.

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    who says?

    if you're in a time of starvation, is it wrong to steal just enough to eat to survive?
    if you're fat and healthy, is it any more wrong to steal the same amount of food?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain View Post
    who says?

    if you're in a time of starvation, is it wrong to steal just enough to eat to survive?
    if you're fat and healthy, is it any more wrong to steal the same amount of food?
    It's every bit as wrong either way. Stealing is stealing. The only thing that would make stealing right is if you are stealing back something that was stolen from you.

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    You people are idiots, the animals are already dead.


    P.S: Some people have to do horrible things to survive, but some people do horrible things under the guise of surviving. Sure, stealing might be wrong, but YOU try not to take whatever food you see if you're starving. Fucking hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0b0t1 View Post
    You people are idiots, the animals are already dead.


    P.S: Some people have to do horrible things to survive, but some people do horrible things under the guise of surviving. Sure, stealing might be wrong, but YOU try not to take whatever food you see if you're starving. Fucking hypocrite.
    I never said that I wouldn't steal if I had to to survive; I just said it's morally wrong... Nothing hypocritical about it.

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    It's horrible, but don't believe it if it comes from PETA. For all we know, those people were paid by PETA to do that, just for the video.

    I'm not saying these things don't happen, only noting that you can never trust PETA.
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    This is a crule ordeal for animals to go through. why would anybody do this. what they gain from doing this,the hunters not the animals. i think it is unresonable for what ever reason.

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    Like I said, PETA is considered a terrorist organization .
    The jealous temper of mankind, ever more disposed to censure than
    to praise the work of others, has constantly made the pursuit of new
    methods and systems no less perilous than the search after unknown
    lands and seas.

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    O_O that was terrible i had to stop the video i couldnt watch it anymore. Animals have feelings, i think that watching that put any end to THAT question

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    let's get a few things straight for people posting on this thread that way we dont get in a loop talking:

    1. PETA = terrorist foundation
    2. That vid only shows live ones that were exceptions to the norm
    3. animals prime instinct drives them, which is why we don't treat them on an equal level.
    4. donation to PETA = retarded
    5. these people didn't grow up wanting to skin animals for a living, they got stuck with it because of the area they live in.

    everyone needs to download and watch this movie called "our daily bread". watch that shit, your life will change
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765849/

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