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    Quote Originally Posted by Runescapian aka Tad View Post
    I think what Myles is trying to say is that using reflection would benefit the community as a whole more than color could. That's mainly because, in almost every aspect except a select few, reflection is more efficient, more accurate, etc. than color. Now if you want to make a complicated script, and don't want to use reflection because it's too short/simple, why not make a huge script, such as an AIO script? That would be challenging enough to give you that good feeling of making something great at the end, and it would benefit the community much more than your flawless one location miner.

    Another thing - is Color really that much more complex than reflection? I don't have much say in this, seeing as I've never created a working fully color script, but from my early learning days I felt like I was collecting data much longer than I was actually scripting. Now that makes me feel as if this 'complexity' is just those hours of making tons of (D)DTMs, getting radians for RRW, setting up TPAs, etc. Correct me if I'm missing some huge point...

    Just throwing this out there - Which breaks more often, Color or Reflection?
    Exactly.

    Also, the update that happened could have been fixed so much faster if srl used reflection.

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    And as of right now. If Method were to leave for a month and runescape updated the day after he left, reflection would be broken for over a month unless someone went and got the hooks from a different bot.

    afaik he is the only one who has a fully working updater here on SRL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MylesMadness View Post
    Yeah, because there abused. Nexus and Scar don't get abused. So if we move to reflection we wouldn't be more abused then we already are.
    Hmm, that's actually the point I was making...

    Though I have nothing against reflection really...

    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSecret View Post
    And as of right now. If Method were to leave for a month and runescape updated the day after he left, reflection would be broken for over a month unless someone went and got the hooks from a different bot.

    afaik he is the only one who has a fully working updater here on SRL.
    I am working on the ultimate updater as a side project, but atm I'm too busy to resume development...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddy1990 View Post
    I am working on the ultimate updater as a side project, but atm I'm too busy to resume development...
    "Ultimate updater"? What exactly does this consist of?
    :-)

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    I really don't see why anyone has a need to complain. You can use just SCAR if you want. You can use SCAR and SRL if you want. You can use SCAR and SRL and reflection if you want. You can use SCAR and your own include if you want (which could be a version of SRL with as many functions replaced with reflection as possible). You can use a mixture. You can contribute color code. You can contribute reflection code. You can contribute both. The SRL and Reflection SVNs are free to access, free to modify. If you don't like something, change it.

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    Scar will always be awesome, cause its not only bound to runescape :'D...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    I really don't see why anyone has a need to complain. You can use just SCAR if you want. You can use SCAR and SRL if you want. You can use SCAR and SRL and reflection if you want. You can use SCAR and your own include if you want (which could be a version of SRL with as many functions replaced with reflection as possible). You can use a mixture. You can contribute color code. You can contribute reflection code. You can contribute both. The SRL and Reflection SVNs are free to access, free to modify. If you don't like something, change it.
    Its not just reflection only though. Like today there was a discussion about proggys and how people still are making there own instead of using srl's. Its everything that this is happening to.

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    It's in SCAR for 3.20- and it's in SRL for 3.20+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runescapian aka Tad View Post
    What were these 'fast bots'?



    +1. Can't really think of anything that color could beat reflection at. Though from time to time when scripting I find that color does something better than reflection, but it's never a majorly significant part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Home View Post
    Simple Object Finding. ( Something like Flax )

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    Even there I'd say reflection is better. I'm not sure about speed, but if mining is anything like flax, I'd say reflection is instant in figuring out whether something is present or not, as far as I can see. Not to mention with Reflection you can do some tile checks and end up getting the closest object, whereas with color it's possible, but not nearly as reliable. As for efficiency, it's definitely more likely for a dynamic color check to fail than a static ID check.

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    personally I think that as soon as an updater is posted publically, I will start using reflection more.

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    Well right now... were not even updated correctly. We barely have new scripts made, just look at the scripts section. The scripting activity has reached a new low. Im not even sure if SRL is updated to work with the new update? Its gotten to the point were im now using rsbot over scar despite how much I hate it. Its just much more faster and efficient. To me scar is dieng, and rsbot is taking over seeing as jagex cant find a way to kill rsbot completely.

    Reflection is actually an awesome special gift, given to SRL. It gives us cheaters a whole new dimension in cheating. It gives us stuff color cant do. Of course we all like challenges... Were not saying to quit color in anyway. Reflection lets us get into the runescape client, and use it. Cmon it has been there ever since Jagex made runescape.

    New comers aways choose rsbot over scar cause its easier to leach now days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingarabian View Post
    It gives us stuff color cant do.
    When you play the game, do you play by looking at the screen? Yes? Then color can do it. It's not a problem of what color can and can't do, it's a problem of whether or not the scripters are creative, smart, and willing enough to attempt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullzeye95 View Post
    When you play the game, do you play by looking at the screen? Yes? Then color can do it. It's not a problem of what color can and can't do, it's a problem of whether or not the scripters are creative, smart, and willing enough to attempt it.
    Sorry, but that is just not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mormonman View Post
    Sorry, but that is just not true.
    If it's not true, then tell me how your brain interprets the game. Is it not through colors?

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    SRL is made of color , reflection was just a addition; Still i agree with myles. though still say no to Applying with reflection script

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    You know, if you're looking in teh chat box or something, a simple CountColor() is faster than the whole Interface shit reflection has going on..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullzeye95 View Post
    If it's not true, then tell me how your brain interprets the game. Is it not through colors?
    There are incredible similarities of colors in certain areas, that no matter how smart you are, you will never be able to do things with those colors in those areas with just color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullzeye95 View Post
    When you play the game, do you play by looking at the screen? Yes? Then color can do it. It's not a problem of what color can and can't do, it's a problem of whether or not the scripters are creative, smart, and willing enough to attempt it.
    Oh cmon you know what I meant.
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    I dont use reflection because its boring. I find scripting using colour techniques more fun tbh, like a more variety of things to use with colour, and most of all i dont really know how to use reflection very well, as i got a good knowledge of colour things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingarabian View Post
    Well right now... were not even updated correctly. We barely have new scripts made, just look at the scripts section. The scripting activity has reached a new low. Im not even sure if SRL is updated to work with the new update? Its gotten to the point were im now using rsbot over scar despite how much I hate it. Its just much more faster and efficient. To me scar is dieng, and rsbot is taking over seeing as jagex cant find a way to kill rsbot completely.

    Reflection is actually an awesome special gift, given to SRL. It gives us cheaters a whole new dimension in cheating. It gives us stuff color cant do. Of course we all like challenges... Were not saying to quit color in anyway. Reflection lets us get into the runescape client, and use it. Cmon it has been there ever since Jagex made runescape.

    New comers aways choose rsbot over scar cause its easier to leach now days.
    From what I've seen, new scripts have been coming at an increased rate now SRL is 100% updated, as far as I know. RSBot is not. From what I see, it seems RSBot is on the decline. And we don't want leechers here. We want people who are willing to learn or at least are willing to contribute positively to the community, not spam the forums with their first posts every time the bot goes down for a couple hours *cough* RSBot *cough*.

    Quote Originally Posted by ~~Joker~~ View Post
    SRL is made of color , reflection was just a addition; Still i agree with myles. though still say no to Applying with reflection script
    And we go back to that question... Why? It doesn't make any sense to not even give a reflection scripter a chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobboHobbo View Post
    I dont use reflection because its boring...i dont really know how to use reflection very well
    How can you know it's boring if you haven't taken the time to learn it through and through?

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    The point what I'm trying here is getting srl to used reflection because we could be faster, more flawless, and overall better.

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    Boreas made a pretty good point regarding that. It's here in the SRL community and it is being developed by skilled scripters here. What do you want, everyone to drop colour scripting, because it's out of date? Is that what you are hoping to achieve or am I missing the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixster View Post
    Boreas made a pretty good point regarding that. It's here in the SRL community and it is being developed by skilled scripters here. What do you want, everyone to drop colour scripting, because it's out of date? Is that what you are hoping to achieve or am I missing the point?
    What im trying to do is get people to accept it instead of being ignorant and useing old slow methods

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    Then go convert SRL to reflection, host it on code.google.com, for free. I'm sure others will help you out, some of which might even be SRL devs. If it gets popular enough we might even make a sub forum of the reflection forum so you guys can discuss it. More and more people will accept it, and those that choose to be 'ignorant' will still have the option to use regular SRL. Maybe eventually more people will be using that include, and more people developing for it, that it will be become the new most popular include for SCAR. Do that, and show people how great it is. That will definitely get people to accept it, and stop using old slow methods.

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