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    Alright, I want to buy a server to auto on 24/7. It will just sit in my basement and just auto, and I'll control from any computer using remote control software. I'll probaly put on 98 (conformation if it works?). Couple of things to clear up:

    1. Does SCAR require more memory or CPU power?
    2. Would 1ghz cover it, or would i need up to 2? I'm looking to run with least amount of lag to best dollar value.
    3. What kind of remote software should I use? I dont really want PC anywhere because you have a picture of your desktop and its laggy, i want a virtual desktop, that performs the the mouse clicks and etc with minimal lag on the USER end. (dont care if its lagging on the actually server).
    4. Would 98 be compatible with these remote control programs?
    5. would 256 ram do it? 512? 1gig!??! (dont really want to spend that much!)
    6. Know any good sites (that ship to Canada) for used computers?

    Thanks guys! ANY input is appreciated!!

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    It won't work in Canada...

    second hand p3 256 ram should cover scar and rs, might wanna spend more on a graphics card for box random etc, dunno bout rc stuff.

    I've built 2 pcs with no problems from newegg.com, dunno bout shipping.


    If you can't get the remote control stuff figured out, just run good 24+ scripts, and walk down to your basement to manually switch scripts every other day, not that bad.

    Something else that you may find interesting, in May, I will be getting a group of scripters to produce a mega script, that intelligently trains multiple players independently on several skills, that runs 24/7, with control from a webpage that it reads, like for auths. You wouldn't need the virtual desktop for this, although it won't be finished until the summer.

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    So your saying, I SHOULD spend on a graphics card? Cuz i think ive lined up either a p4 1.5-ish CPU, 512 ram, and some geforce 5500-6100. Would that cover it do you think? Thanks for the respond:P

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    Yea I think so. I dunno how much the virtual thing adds, but that's plenty of ram, especially with 98, and graphics looks fine.

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    So, 512 will suffice just fine? Even for bitmap searching and etc...?

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    Ya, plus you can always throw in another stick if you need to.

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    I have a virtual machine installed on my computer. The virtual machine runs on win98 and has 512 Mb of ram allocated to run the entire virtual computer, SCAR, and RS.

    I have a pretty weak video card to run the computer, and of course the video on the virtual machine is emulated through the software, so it's pretty wimpy, but it works fine for autoing.

    I think a decent P3 processor would work, and onboard graphics would probably be fine too. If not you can always buy a cheap video card and stick it in there. As long as you can do 32 bit graphics and > 800x600 resolution it should work.

    512 RAM should be fine. 256 might even work, but maybe it wouldn't quite be enough.

    I have no idea what to recommend for remote software.

    If you go for a more powerful machine, (decent P4, 1 gb RAM) you could probably have it run a virtual machine and auto two sets of chars at the same time. One could be unsigned, and the other could be signed using SCSS and deleting the UID every time. Or you could always set it up to run one behind a proxy.

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    dup post

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    Sweet deal, i found a guy with some cheap memory, so i think ill being going for 1gb RAM (depending on how many slots I got), about SCSS, the command is "DeleteUid;" right?
    on your virtual machine, have you set the resoulotion to 800X600, or higher? im pretty sure that the geforce 5900 could handle dual pretty good .

    Thanks
    EDIT: I'll probaly be using your chicken fighter (gonna go for a 2-10 day streak) with about 20 guys

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    Anything over 600mhz should run rs applet without any lag.

    I have experienced with 512 SDram, 450mhz huge LAG at RS applet, playing on it is somewhat impossible, because you have to wait like second till applet recognizes mouse position...

    So I guess anything above 800mhz should work for java, throw in extra 800mhz for SCAR and you're done.

    Btw, am I the only one who never payed for windows? I mean what's all that bulls-it about reinstalling and activations? If anyone needs I'll pm him link to download windows xp iso image, just burn it on disc, install and it works. You don't need those updates windows gives you, it just makes windows even more vulnerable ;-)

    If it wasn't for SCAR, Macromedia applications, and few other programs, I would never work on windows... (OpenSource FTW!)

    So,
    P3/4( 1ghz+ )
    RAM 256-512
    Any Graphic card with ~64mb of ram (It's enough trust me.)
    ~10GB HDD
    AND VERY GOOD COOLERS! (Zalman recommended)
    (Cooler for HDD, Processor, and graphic card.)


    Remember, if you don't put good coolers, you might end up like me. (2.8ghz workstation died after 20 days, still not sure if it was due to lighting hit or it was overheating, but no need to risk aye?)

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    There again arises the question: Is it possible to port SCAR 2.03 to linux? Man, Windows is such a s***y platform to run this on . It would be so much easier on Fedora.

    It's been a while... but I'm BACK!!!

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    Alright, thanks for the input guys! Why not just use the fans that come with the computer? they obvsouly work, or the dude woundlt be selling eh? (refering to my computer )

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    c0de I reinstall xp too, but I need activation for sp2, which I need for vb.net, and I kinda wanted to learn that, but I'll learn C instead.

    You should be fine with standard fan, you're doing anything that would really burn out a proc. If you do want to get another fan, get a wider diameter (but not too heavy) fan because that means it needs to spin less rotations per second to move the same amount of air. You don't need to worry about noise if it's in the basement, if it was in your room (like mine will be) I'd say spring for a zalman reservator, but you should be fine.

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    I'm not sure what the resolution is on the VM, but it's pretty low. Either 800x600 or 1024x768. Not sure which. If you run a VM, your video card won't help the VM graphics, since it's all software emulated. It would help with the main computer graphics, and could reduce the CPU workload for those graphics, but I don't think the graphics load from RS is very high.

    Quote Originally Posted by cause View Post
    Sweet deal, i found a guy with some cheap memory, so i think ill being going for 1gb RAM (depending on how many slots I got), about SCSS, the command is "DeleteUid;" right?
    on your virtual machine, have you set the resoulotion to 800X600, or higher? im pretty sure that the geforce 5900 could handle dual pretty good .

    Thanks
    EDIT: I'll probaly be using your chicken fighter (gonna go for a 2-10 day streak) with about 20 guys

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    Ok, some guy (I think "tot0m"?) said he found a better virtual machine, unfoutanlty its not freeware but im sure ill find a way. If his is as good as he says, ill upgrade to 1gb-2gb ram and maybe run 2 of em .

    Thanks Guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0de View Post
    Anything over 600mhz should run rs applet without any lag.

    I have experienced with 512 SDram, 450mhz huge LAG at RS applet, playing on it is somewhat impossible, because you have to wait like second till applet recognizes mouse position...

    So I guess anything above 800mhz should work for java, throw in extra 800mhz for SCAR and you're done.

    Btw, am I the only one who never payed for windows? I mean what's all that bulls-it about reinstalling and activations? If anyone needs I'll pm him link to download windows xp iso image, just burn it on disc, install and it works. You don't need those updates windows gives you, it just makes windows even more vulnerable ;-)

    If it wasn't for SCAR, Macromedia applications, and few other programs, I would never work on windows... (OpenSource FTW!)

    So,
    P3/4( 1ghz+ )
    RAM 256-512
    Any Graphic card with ~64mb of ram (It's enough trust me.)
    ~10GB HDD
    AND VERY GOOD COOLERS! (Zalman recommended)
    (Cooler for HDD, Processor, and graphic card.)


    Remember, if you don't put good coolers, you might end up like me. (2.8ghz workstation died after 20 days, still not sure if it was due to lighting hit or it was overheating, but no need to risk aye?)
    yeah, of course im using xp cracked . Will probaly use 98, but if my video card is like 128 mb or 256, could i give Scar like 128-256 ram to run on? then stick the rest towards virtual machine? would that work?

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    He uses the same thing I do, VMWare Workstation. It works very well. Make sure you have VMTools installed.

    When you run a virtual machine, CPU power is going to be the biggest hurdle for you, not RAM. With RAM, you either have enough or you don't. If you have enough it will run fine, if not it will crawl. But if you try to run 2 VMs on one computer with a weak CPU it doesn't matter how much RAM you have for it.

    SCAR won't be able to use your video card memory, and neither will your VM. It just doesn't work that way.

    Based on what you've said thus far, I suggest that you set aside enough money for 1 gb of RAM, then get the best CPU you can afford for this little project. If you have onboard video on your motherboard, then try it out that way. If that doesn't work, then go buy a cheap video card. If you have a set price range then maybe people could even suggest certain CPUs for you to look at.

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    I was under the impression that after I installed my video card drivers, and then installed vmtools, it would copy the settings?

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    So your looking to use vm? You would need only to allocate around about 256 ram to it. Although i dont run vm, my main computer that i use is 1ghz and 256 ram and it runs runescape just fine. 2 gigs? i cant even afford a better computer for my main let alone one jsut for autoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    I was under the impression that after I installed my video card drivers, and then installed vmtools, it would copy the settings?
    VMWare doesn't see your host video card at all. It's all emulated.

    http://kb.vmware.com/vmtnkb/search.d...=Forum%20Posts

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    Ah I see, thanks. Well vmware's driver works well enough, but it would be nice if there was a way to make it better.

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    Well im getting either a 2gh computer with 1gb ram, or if that dude sells his computer, a 1.5-7 ish gh. I was under the a impression that, the better the video card, the faster the box random got solved?

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    Don't buy any ram till you check my supply out. If it fits your computer you can have it. I think I have a few 1 or 2 gig chips in my desk...

    Edit: Can't find the ram, it might still be in the 2 computers I am trashing in the shed. There is a monitor out there too if you want.

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    I reccomend a quadcore CPU by intel. Might be expensive, but its worth it. You get 4x 1.6 ghz on your comp, so you can run 4 VM's without problems.

    I heard that VM's run well on dual CPU systems because it evens out the load on every CPU. Well I wish you good luck with this project!

    It's been a while... but I'm BACK!!!

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    I reccomend a quadcore CPU by intel. Might be expensive, but its worth it. You get 4x 1.6 ghz on your comp, so you can run 4 VM's without problems.

    I heard that VM's run well on dual CPU systems because it evens out the load on every CPU. Well I wish you good luck with this project!

    It's been a while... but I'm BACK!!!

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