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    Unless they are willing to post decent portions of the runescape source code I doubt we will learn much from 'former staff members anyway'.
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    Nice troll i guess :P

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    Heyy, Its worth the trolling if he is a troll. If he is trolling, its better than other trolls that troll these parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Main_Ftw View Post
    Atleast some proof please.
    Maybe hold a paper that says "Hi Srl" and take it in front of jagex building (can be seen on youtube's excel go to jagex video) and block out your face.
    I can't do that I'm using a proxy and protecting my identity for a reason. Besides what proof would it be anyways? Photoshop now makes it easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brain View Post
    better yet, write "Brain" across your chest and post a time stamped picture for us to see, that way we'll know you're legit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sex View Post
    This is quite amusing..
    I want definitive proof please .
    Anyone could do that

    Quote Originally Posted by YoHoJo View Post
    Well, most of us would probably be interested in your 'macro detection system', tell us anything and everything, current era.
    As I am not entirely familiar with this communities methods it would be better if you asked me more specific questions, I will try my best though

    Quote Originally Posted by TRiLeZ View Post
    If you're not a troll, how does Jagex identify autoers?
    There's a number of ways, the main way is the reconstruction method used via the report system. It logs all the variables you and the player that reported used in the past 60 seconds or so... once the inquiry arrives a person from my former team would 'reconstruct' the information and decide whether or not it is a legitimate player, they usually come up inconclusive. Another main way is watching for out of the ordinary client usage, this was how Auto Rune was killed because of the "-1 UID". The most conclusive evidence in my opinion is the chat logs, playing statistics (such as playing/breaking time... unsolved Events like randoms), and IP logs, it's quite funny to watch a reconstructed mouse array go crazy all over the test screen.

    The '60 second record' method works by saving everything you do in arrays to a database that is constantly deleting data from 61 seconds ago and replacing it with data from 1 second ago thus creating the 60 prior seconds that can be accessed on a whim via the report button.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johura View Post
    Its a troll, the 'all your base picture' gave it away.

    "All your base" > Internet Meme > 4chan > Troll
    Actually it was meant as a joke, but seeing how there is no way I can prove who I am (nor do I want to) I figured maybe this community could benefit from my information whether or not they chose to believe it is entirely up to the viewer, I'll just say what I can

    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    If we'd assume you aren't trolling, just so you know, you wouldn't rise in the ranks here by telling 'secrets' or anything...
    Oh quite, if I wanted to 'rise in the rankings' I would of taken a much stealthier approach, however a few years back a "Jagex Spy" managed to reach SRL membership status

    Quote Originally Posted by Johura View Post
    Unless they are willing to post decent portions of the runescape source code I doubt we will learn much from 'former staff members anyway'.
    If you were anyone who could do anything worth while then you would know the source for the game side is quite accessible through several well maintained SVN's and a simple Java decompiler

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    Of course we can!

    @Who wants to know: Do Autoresponders have a great deal to if a user is banned or not?
    "Autoresponders"?

    Are you referring to the spam bots? Those are usually banned within a day.
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    Auto-responder is something which responds to players chat with its own responses.

    I think you iz trollin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Who Wants To Know View Post
    Oh quite, if I wanted to 'rise in the rankings' I would of taken a much stealthier approach, however a few years back a "Jagex Spy" managed to reach SRL membership status

    "Autoresponders"?

    Are you referring to the spam bots? Those are usually banned within a day.
    1. Really? Under what Nickname? O_o

    2. An Autoresponder is something that we use to "chat" with other people in-game, making us seem more like humans by talking, I.E someone says "Mining lvl?" and the bot answers with the bot's mining level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who Wants To Know View Post
    There's a number of ways, the main way is the reconstruction method used via the report system. It logs all the variables you and the player that reported used in the past 60 seconds or so... once the inquiry arrives a person from my former team would 'reconstruct' the information and decide whether or not it is a legitimate player, they usually come up inconclusive. Another main way is watching for out of the ordinary client usage, this was how Auto Rune was killed because of the "-1 UID". The most conclusive evidence in my opinion is the chat logs, playing statistics (such as playing/breaking time... unsolved Events like randoms), and IP logs, it's quite funny to watch a reconstructed mouse array go crazy all over the test screen.

    The '60 second record' method works by saving everything you do in arrays to a database that is constantly deleting data from 61 seconds ago and replacing it with data from 1 second ago thus creating the 60 prior seconds that can be accessed on a whim via the report button..
    Don't you mean Aryan instead of Auto Rune...? Quite a different thing AFAIK. Aryan bots got caught + banned because they all used the same UID. But then again, Auto Rune was before my time, I don't know how it got killed.



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    So if we make our bots have better breakng times and they sucessfully solve all randoms plus that they don't go on for 24/7. We will have sucsessfully created a bot which is undetectable.
    Second question, i remember jagex posted on their front page of runescape once that they can detect all bots and cheets. Please tell me if this is ture or not.

    And something i am very intrested you must tell us your runescape mod username so we can check him up. All so tell us something about becomming a jAGEX MOD IS THERE ANYCODE OR SOMETHING IF SO PLEASE REVEALE THE SECRET ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qasim149 View Post
    So if we make our bots have better breakng times and they sucessfully solve all randoms plus that they don't go on for 24/7. We will have sucsessfully created a bot which is undetectable.
    Second question, i remember jagex posted on their front page of runescape once that they can detect all bots and cheets. Please tell me if this is ture or not.

    And something i am very intrested you must tell us your runescape mod username so we can check him up. All so tell us something about becomming a jAGEX MOD IS THERE ANYCODE OR SOMETHING IF SO PLEASE REVEALE THE SECRET ;-)
    Dude.. What the..? Of course there is no "code" or secret way to become a jmod.. Only way to become a jmod is to begin working at their place @ cambridge.
    It's been proved many times that SCAR can be undetectable/user not banned from using SCAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    1. Really? Under what Nickname? O_o

    2. An Autoresponder is something that we use to "chat" with other people in-game, making us seem more like humans by talking, I.E someone says "Mining lvl?" and the bot answers with the bot's mining level.
    Interesting idea, Jagex does not have magic powers so if it's a human like how would they know? My guess if it's realistic enough it could help, but one slip up and the chat logs tell a good story

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    Don't you mean Aryan instead of Auto Rune...? Quite a different thing AFAIK. Aryan bots got caught + banned because they all used the same UID. But then again, Auto Rune was before my time, I don't know how it got killed.
    Auto Rune was the first widespread macro system we took action against, similar bots that followed it were detected the same way. Perhaps that was one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qasim149 View Post
    So if we make our bots have better breakng times and they sucessfully solve all randoms plus that they don't go on for 24/7. We will have sucsessfully created a bot which is undetectable.
    Second question, i remember jagex posted on their front page of runescape once that they can detect all bots and cheets. Please tell me if this is ture or not.
    Oh no, most of the claims that you have read to be 'by Jagex' are by the Public Relations/Webiste people who either deliberately lie or have no idea what they are talking about. They also claimed there were no cheats for runescape Even though at one point there was investigations going on numerous websites and communities in the past.

    The Lurker that got his status to 'yellow' on this website didn't reveal his account name, and if he did I probably wouldn't tell you. He was doing research on various different macroing methods he posted a few scripts he claimed were 'from the private section' a while back at our secret Jagex hideout

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    It is against the rules to proxy into SRL.

    Sorry if I sound agressive, but if this IS true, we'd be interested I believe.

    Also, who knows on which side you actually are on ? If you actually are here to sort of gain our interest and melt into the background, to take a critical strike against us, who knows .

    Of course I understand you want to protect your identity, but please be a bit more honest with us, and, what do you fear ?

    To be honest I find it very unlikely a past mod would post on this thread introducing himself with "All your base are belong to us." crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Who Wants To Know View Post
    He was doing research on various different macroing methods he posted a few scripts he claimed were 'from the private section' a while back at our secret Jagex hideout
    Hehe, I find this a little funny tbh, I wonder how little JaGeX actually knows about us..
    There is more than one private section, and the yellow-status one isn't the best of them

    Oh btw, don't take stuff people say here personally.. most of the users here are teenagers and JMods (or persons saying they are / was JMods) aren't that well liked here, as you might have noticed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who Wants To Know View Post
    Auto Rune was the first widespread macro system we took action against, similar bots that followed it were detected the same way. Perhaps that was one of them.
    Well, I don't think Auto Rune was similar to Aryan. Aryan was the first public java bot, while Auto Rune did not use java. (To my knowledge)
    There is also several years in between. Auto Rune died long before Aryan was created.



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    It is against the rules to proxy into SRL.

    Sorry if I sound agressive, but if this IS true, we'd be interested I believe.

    Also, who knows on which side you actually are on ? If you actually are here to sort of gain our interest and melt into the background, to take a critical strike against us, who knows .

    Of course I understand you want to protect your identity, but please be a bit more honest with us, and, what do you fear ?

    To be honest I find it very unlikely a past mod would post on this thread introducing himself with "All your base are belong to us." crap.
    Dervish, shh. This guy is the most interesting potential troll we've ever had here.
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    lol IceFire

    Also, who knows on which side you actually are on ? If you actually are here to sort of gain our interest and melt into the background, to take a critical strike against us, who knows .
    But it's so funny how practically a Jagex spy within us wouldn't do us much harm, like, what would they do? Yeah, they can keep changing bank pixels around to piss us off but it's just as much work for us as it is for them...

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    Omg guys really don't joke on this, we have a real jagex dude, he can prove incredibly useful!
    Hello dear sir mr. jagex staff member, I'd like to know how how random the random events are? Are they more like tossing a coin or rolling a dice? I doubt they're as random as lottery because that's too random to be coded to RuneScape unless you have some über lottery machine computer there too, I don't know.

    Secondly I'd like to tell you your bot detection got me banned even though I didn't use any bot!! It was just a color clicker that clicked monster colors, but it wasn't a real runescape bot!!

    Sincerely yours, marpis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    lol IceFire



    But it's so funny how practically a Jagex spy within us wouldn't do us much harm, like, what would they do? Yeah, they can keep changing bank pixels around to piss us off but it's just as much work for us as it is for them...
    It's cause we're uber l33t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    lol IceFire
    You deleted my post :-P

    It's obvious fake though, still funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torrent of Flame View Post
    Dervish, shh. This guy is the most interesting potential troll we've ever had here.
    Lol :P

    I believe this guy, even though this is the internet

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    Back on topic..

    I still disbelieve. I have a friend who is an ex-JMod He doesn't know I am on here though, he still doesn't share anything aside from hints.

    Sure, I found out about the trade limit coming early, but nothing spectacular.

    E: IceFire ninja'd me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torrent of Flame View Post
    Dervish, shh. This guy is the most interesting potential troll we've ever had here.
    Wrong quote ?

    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    lol IceFire


    But it's so funny how practically a Jagex spy within us wouldn't do us much harm, like, what would they do? Yeah, they can keep changing bank pixels around to piss us off but it's just as much work for us as it is for them...
    Randomizing fixed colors ? Changing forms of what we need ? Highlighting certain script spots ?

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    I can remember autorune (Though I was like 11 years old)
    By the way did Aryan use mouse or did it use modified client to send the commands?
    I used Aryan too but cant remember it too well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who Wants To Know View Post
    Interesting idea, Jagex does not have magic powers so if it's a human like how would they know? My guess if it's realistic enough it could help, but one slip up and the chat logs tell a good story
    I know this isn't a grand idea but what if someone uses a quick chat world then Jagex surly can't look at the chat log and what if we turn the public chat to off then Jagex will only rely on mouse movements and time played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qasim149 View Post
    Did someone delete my post?
    Quote Originally Posted by bionicle1800 View Post
    Idn, someone deleted my post too ^.^
    Yes and Yes, Off-topic Spam not needed...TY

    Still not convinced...though you seem well articulated....Auto-Rune and Arayn did not share the same methods...therefore, the method you refered to, to Kill Arayn, was not the same as Auto-Rune...

    Your ignorance to Auto-Responders astounds me, as you say it is partially the basis for detection ?

    Troll on....


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    Not sharing Secrets are we Jagex Guy?
    Blow our mind with something Astounding T.T lol.
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