Weed.

[Sex]

I have heard that the only reason marijuana is illegal is because Nixon made it illegal when people he didn't like that were in office smoked it and if he made it illegal, they would be breaking the law and be overthrown.

I don't know though, I wasn't alive during his presidency.

[The Claw]

Wait, so how exactly does someone smoke a bowl of weed?

HAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahaha, oh man
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to cycrosism again"

[GoF]

Oh, it's this thread again.. It's always the same stuff:

"Weed makes you rape babies and then gives you all kinds of cancer!",

"Weed is awesome because some cool people have said so, and i want to act cool on the interwebs even though ive never seen weed! WOoooo!"

"Hey maaaan weed cures like all diseases in the world and it will totally make people stop using other drugs and turns this world like totally into a paradise maaan... *shitty guitar playing*".

These threads are usually fun to read though.. And really easy to troll people who worship it and act like it possibly could never have any bad side-effects or cause any trouble in any situation, because some "Hippies for da weed" group did a totally unbiased study to prove wrong some bible waving religious fundie study..

I don't really have an opinion on this and legalizing weed is kind of useless, it won't make people smoke less cigs or use less alcohol or any other drugs, it'll just be added with those two.. I think everyone should have the right to take any drugs they like if they were denied all free healthcare for the damage they cause to their body (not referring only to weed, note the any drugs).. Wasting tax money because some sad failure decided to turn himself into a vegetable is a nothx.

E: I'd probably smoke it if it was legal, but I'd rather not risk getting some drug abuser criminal record. Gl finding a job that doesn't involve organizing garbage or the words "Would you like some fries with that?" after that, atleast here.. Or it gets pseudo-removed after some years from the record, so it's just more tedious for employers to find out, but still it instantly makes you seem like a loser to the employer, unless you want to work with some dirty hippies (assuming some of them work instead of slacking around and playing the guitar horribly).

[Griff]

Oh, it's this thread again.. It's always the same stuff:

"Weed makes you rape babies and then gives you all kinds of cancer!",

"Weed is awesome because some cool people have said so, and i want to act cool on the interwebs even though ive never seen weed! WOoooo!"

"Hey maaaan weed cures like all diseases in the world and it will totally make people stop using other drugs and turns this world like totally into a paradise maaan... *shitty guitar playing*".

These threads are usually fun to read though.. And really easy to troll people who worship it and act like it possibly could never have any bad side-effects or cause any trouble in any situation, because some "Hippies for da weed" group did a totally unbiased study to prove wrong some bible waving religious fundie study..

I don't really have an opinion on this and legalizing weed is kind of useless, it won't make people smoke less cigs or use less alcohol or any other drugs, it'll just be added with those two.. I think everyone should have the right to take any drugs they like if they were denied all free healthcare for the damage they cause to their body (not referring only to weed, note the any drugs).. Wasting tax money because some sad failure decided to turn himself into a vegetable is a nothx.

E: I'd probably smoke it if it was legal, but I'd rather not risk getting some drug abuser criminal record. Gl finding a job that doesn't involve organizing garbage or the words "Would you like some fries with that?" after that, atleast here.. Or it gets pseudo-removed after some years from the record, so it's just more tedious for employers to find out, but still it instantly makes you seem like a loser to the employer, unless you want to work with some dirty hippies (assuming some of them work instead of slacking around and playing the guitar horribly).

The solution? Work, at Taco Time, saying would you like some mexi-fries with that would be so much more fun.

[Bionicle]

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to cycrosism again"

Got the same thing :<

All i have to say is there are three types of people in this battle.



1
The person against weed. No matter what you say, they are always against it, and will argue no, no matter what. (EG, cyro )



2
The one who does weed.

(They don't all look like that but the 60's were good years )
"Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee maaaaaaaaaaaaaan this stuff is amazinggggg"



3
The one who doesn't really care. The one kind of in between.
EG me.
I've got the stereotypical look and style for someone who does weed, but I don't.
I will never do weed, but i hang with a lot of people who do. There good people, and pretty funny when their high, but contraire to common belief, they don't at all pressure me into doing it.


Weed is your choice IMO, if you want to shorten your life, but live a paradise, that's your choice .

[Cigue]

1. I don't smoke, used to.
2. Kimo was a favourite for me it's legendary in Québec.
3. Decriminalization. Legalization is a Very Bad idea, because unlike some of you try to prove by all means, it HAS its bad effects.
4. I started when I was 14 with one of my best friends He's currently a dope dealer but we still hang out.
5. I stopped smoking because people with ADD who smoke weed are at increased risk of schizophrenia, and I had a very very very bad hallucinations attack. This shit has PLENTY of bad side effects, including the part where people won't hang out with you because you're the druggie kid.
I still take ecstasy occasionally though :P

[cycrosism]

Oh, and another reason why it is illegal is people were using it to make paper (or books? meh, something similar) which caused some companies to go bankrupt.

[Smartzkid]

Oh, and another reason why it is illegal is people were using it to make paper (or books? meh, something similar) which caused some companies to go bankrupt.

Wtf?

[Kyle Undefined]

Oh, it's this thread again.. It's always the same stuff:

"Weed makes you rape babies and then gives you all kinds of cancer!",

"Weed is awesome because some cool people have said so, and i want to act cool on the interwebs even though ive never seen weed! WOoooo!"

"Hey maaaan weed cures like all diseases in the world and it will totally make people stop using other drugs and turns this world like totally into a paradise maaan... *shitty guitar playing*".

These threads are usually fun to read though.. And really easy to troll people who worship it and act like it possibly could never have any bad side-effects or cause any trouble in any situation, because some "Hippies for da weed" group did a totally unbiased study to prove wrong some bible waving religious fundie study..

I don't really have an opinion on this and legalizing weed is kind of useless, it won't make people smoke less cigs or use less alcohol or any other drugs, it'll just be added with those two.. I think everyone should have the right to take any drugs they like if they were denied all free healthcare for the damage they cause to their body (not referring only to weed, note the any drugs).. Wasting tax money because some sad failure decided to turn himself into a vegetable is a nothx.

E: I'd probably smoke it if it was legal, but I'd rather not risk getting some drug abuser criminal record. Gl finding a job that doesn't involve organizing garbage or the words "Would you like some fries with that?" after that, atleast here.. Or it gets pseudo-removed after some years from the record, so it's just more tedious for employers to find out, but still it instantly makes you seem like a loser to the employer, unless you want to work with some dirty hippies (assuming some of them work instead of slacking around and playing the guitar horribly).

You're wrong in every single way. Your beginning quotes are sterotypes of both sides.

People who support marijuana are not hippies, that was the 70's. The correct term is marijuana activists.

You say you don't have an opinion but you're posting biased stereotypical comments from both sides...May I suggest you know what you're talking about before posting and not just repeating what you've heard?

Weed has never been about getting people to use less alcohol or cigs, where the hell did you get that from?

Why are you associating weed with criminal drug abuse? Those don't go together in anyway...Yes, it is possible for idiots to be a criminal and smoke weed, but it's not just the weed, it's other circumstances too (Other drugs). So since I smoke weed, then it's not possible for me to work as a programmer? I had a 6 month contract with a web programming company and smoked every day.

So you're saying that people who work in the fast food industry are nothing but pot heads?

You keep throwing the word hippies around and saying they are dirty and lazy, get your fucking facts straight you little prick, actually educate yourself before posting shit you have no idea about.

You're saying pot smokers don't work, well you're wrong on all accounts.

Also, most employers really don't care if you have a drug record as long as it's reasonable.

You sir, have pissed me off with your uneducated remarks about a subject that you yourself said you don't have an opinion on. Like I said before, actually learn and educate yourself about a subject before responding with bullshit.

One last thing, so all shitty guitar players are pot heads?

*EDIT* Cyc is right, they were making hemp paper/oil/clothes and it was much cheaper and better quality than what we have. So the higher up companies rallied against it so they wouldn't lose any business.

~Camo

[The Claw]

Wtf?

Yea he's right. The products that can be derived from the part of the plant you dont smoke are much much better than what we have now - cotton, paper from trees, and so on. Cant remember all of the examples, but basically it threatened alot of flourishing industries back in the day, and these large corporations spent lots and lots of money pushing for it to be made illegal.

[i luffs yeww]

I dunno.. I haven't seen anyone here tell someone who doesn't smoke weed to smoke weed. Similar to atheists towards theists. But in both occasions, the non-marijuana smokers and the theists, tend to attempt to attract others to their way of thinking.. Just saying..



And Cigue, of course it has bad effects. Everything has bad effects.

[Kyle Undefined]

Not everything...

~Camo

[i luffs yeww]

Not everything...

~Camo

What doesn't?

[Kyle Undefined]

Working out for one example, you lose weight and gain muscle making your body healthier.

~Camo

[i luffs yeww]

Working out for one example, you lose weight and gain muscle making your body healthier.

~Camo

If you work out too much, or you use too much weight or something it can be bad. If you're all muscle and no fat, that's not good.. :>

Everything has bad effects if you abuse it.

[Kyle Undefined]

Ah, if you abuse it, that's the key...doesn't mean everything is bad tho

~Camo

[i luffs yeww]

Yeah. In moderation it's fine, but what I said was just that everything has bad effects.. Which everything does, since abusing something may be bad. I dunno if that makes sense at all. I'm high.

Crunchatize me, cap'n.

[cycrosism]

It can also cause heart attacks/failure because it speeds up your heart rate

[Sex]

It can also cause heart attacks/failure because it speeds up your heart rate

A shitload of things speed up your heart rate as well............such as exercising...

[NiCbaZ]

1. Do you smoke it?

no i care about my body.

[cycrosism]

A shitload of things speed up your heart rate as well............such as exercising...

Yeah but you are good things for your body, when you smoke weed you are only doing bad things such as causing lung problems and as i just said heart problems

[Sir R. M8gic1an]

Getting stiff joints is mainly a "hangover" effect from it. It generally happens a few days after smoking it (But doesn't always happen). I myself don't smoke it but I won't judge you.

Heh, unfortunately I didn't have time to read through the whole thread and so jsut picked one of the comments from the first page

Weed is very often used to help with muscle pain, as it relaxes the whole body. Also, the "hangover" effect (calm down) is just tiredness and low unattentiveness over the next one day if even that long. Go to sleep, wake up and half way through the day you won't even notice anything anymore.

So... nope, not after 'a few days' and definitely not stiff joints as that is one of the reasons it is medically accepted.

Edit: I've now had the time to read through it

There are several ways of looking at it that need to be considered:
How do you smoke it?
- Methods which involve more tobacco will obviously be worse for your lungs
- Whichever method you use, you are still harming your lungs because it is smoke.
- How big is this harm? As previously stated, no weed-only lung cancer has been recorded to date.

How often do you smoke it?
- An occasional smoker will most likely only reap the benefits as long as s/he smokes a suitable amount
- "memory problems" can be seen, but this would only be noticebly detectable if the person is a on a constant high/calmdown cycle. They are a normal effect in some strands of weed such as amnesia during the high, while others will not give you memory problems at all, during or after the high.

How much do you smoke?
- Greening out and negative effects usually are caused by having smoked above your bodily level of acceptance, meaning that the relaxing effects are actually too strong, therefore making you green out. Same way you end up puking and having a huge hangover with alcohol if you drink too much.
- Different quantaties can be smoked to achieve different effects. Personally I used small amounts of weed to help me focus on my work, which actually goes against the "it makes you distracted". When used in supervised/controlled circunstances you can use it's effects to your advantage.
e.g. You lose a bit of awareness of what is surrounding you. So by smoking, I lost awareness of my environment and was able to fully focus on my work.

What environment are you in when you smoke it?
- If in a club, you'll probably end up tripping on the music a lot more (hummmmmm, nice experiences)
- If in a darkly lit room with nice low music you will most likely end up on a philosophical mood or if you are smoking it ith other people you are also very likely to engage in deep (and sometimes insightful) conversations.
- If out on the streets, you might end up getting nervous or anxious, as you are way more calm than everyone else ho jsut seem way too active, therefore making you feel like you don't fit in. You aren't as able to keep up with a fast speeded conversation as you usually would be.

Also, keep in mind that weed hightens the senses of your body. All 5 senses and other senses that are not usually considered such as Perception of space, perception of heat. It also "makes you creative" because your mind is wandering in paths that are different from those of when you are sober, and therefore it seems/is new to you, making you call it 'creativity'.

For example, any sexual interaction when high feels extremely good because of your tactile sense (all over the body), the intensity of smells, the heat on your body, the tastes in your mouth, everything is way more intense.

Am I against it? I'm against no drug as long as you know what you are doing it, how to do it and how to manage inside of the trip. If you're just gonna smoke and green out each time then it's sort of pointless, because you end up feeling more bad than good. If you're gonna smoke and for that lack on your responsabilities then it's bad. But if you smoke after an entire day and have no other responsabilities to tend to, after having considered all the effects and how affordable they are, then why not? I know I do.

~RM

[Sex]

Yeah but you are good things for your body, when you smoke weed you are only doing bad things such as causing lung problems and as i just said heart problems

Lol? It still doesn't matter what you are doing. It does the same thing, speed up your heart rate. Smoking MJ is not ALL bad. Why do you have this viewpoint? Oh yeah, because your parents taught you that. Your opinion is so biased. But it will not cause heart problems. A sped up heart is not a problem at all..(for short periods of time)..it is part of every day life.

[Kyle Undefined]

Oh lawd, we got Rasta I agree 100% to what you said.

Cyc, caffeine is worse on your body than weed, especially when it comes to speeding up your heart.

~Camo

[i luffs yeww]

Thanks, Rasta.

The only thing that I want to make sure is noticeable to those against it is that smoking it can be bad, due to the smoke, not the drug. But vaporizing/eating won't harm the lungs like the hot smoke does.