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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCbaZ View Post
    no i care about my body.
    Weed can be used for medical purposes.
    Weed won't necessarily harm your body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Weed can be used for medical purposes.
    Weed won't necessarily harm your body.
    It helps and harms at the same time. No doubt about either.
    Just sayin ^.^
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    I was stuck in the hospital yesterday night and got hugely baked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigue View Post
    I was stuck in the hospital yesterday night and got hugely baked
    reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigue View Post
    I was stuck in the hospital yesterday night and got hugely baked
    "Hugely baked."

    x] Already sounds fukken awesome.

    Hugely is a word.. apparently.. >_> haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigue View Post
    I was stuck in the hospital yesterday night and got hugely baked
    Wtf. You told me you didn't/couldn't smoke because of sports or some shit O_o .
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    An interesting story bro:

    I never touched drugs or alcohol until December my Junior year of High school. I never had any history of behavioral problems, insanity or anything out of sorts. My friend(s) and I started smoking weed more and more often until it was about once or twice a week. About 5 months after that I smoked some weed like normal except my heart rate increased a bit... everything was fine for a while. The next day I started feeling large amounts of unexplained agitation/ strange feelings/ conflicting thoughts/ and suppressed appetite. These symptoms were mild at first, but they contained to steadily increase over the next week, and eventually lead to insomnia within 9 days. At the time I was still hiding my little hobby from nondrug users/ my family... and they started to notice a change in my behavior during that... after all I was getting little to no sleep at all at night. I began to wonder if my bud had been laced with something horrid... but I shared that bowl(s) with 3 other friends who have had no problems to date.

    Loose of sleep, prolonged strange feelings, and little nutrition was sending me in a downward spiral (even though I had completely stopped all weed usage since 9 days ago). At first my energy level was affected.. I was growing tireless ect.. then it started to hit me mentally.. I could not distinguish proper decisions from bad ones.. and my entire though process was becoming more and more shaky. About 10 days after this I couldn't even sit through school because of the symptoms, I had to leave school that Monday before I even ended first period.

    Needless to say, my mother, who was unaware of what was going on at the time, took me to a local doctor who diagnosed me with "minor" dehydration, and I stayed out of school the next day. It was during those days I began to slowly lose all sanity... everywhere I went in my house it felt like someone was starring at me and I began to feel like some "evil spirit" or some bullshit like that was tormenting me.. I began rambling about things that didn't make sense to my parents about things I don't even remember. I eventually ended up running out of my house ( I don't remember the rest) and parents later explained I ran bare foot through the neighborhood shouting things ect.. it wasn't until a day or two after I woke up in a juvenile rehabilitation center that I realized where I was and what I had happened.

    They had me in that place for 7 days, on this horrible substance known as Zyprexa which increased your appetite like to like two times its normal demand. I gained 15 pounds in a week there... after being 'rehabilitated' I resumed school as normal although I had missed about two weeks and was really behind, I had my full mental health back.. or so I thought.

    A week or two passed and I was going to try smoking some bud again to see if it would affect me, different dealer ect... had friends (they had no problems) ect... and everything was fine for the first 24 hours.. after that I began to get similar symptoms from before... although there was also a drug interaction between Zyprexa and THC which are opposite (anti-dope/syrm)... I was out of school another week and a half and I had to up my dosage of zyprexa again, which was a huge mistake.

    I tried to 'wheen' my way off of zyprexa because the stuff was horrible, caused all kinda of problems including insomnia which lasted for months. After completely stopping the dosage of zyprexa I began zyprexa withdraw, which including me getting frequent head aches, more insomnia, and throwing up every morning promptly 5 minutes after I woke up with a terrible stomach ach.

    I had been inactive around SRL until the summer which was around the time the final phases of the withdraw were going on, if any of you remember I was unknowingly trolling about every thread I saw -.- and it wasn't until late July that my full mental and physical health were restored completely.

    Haven't done weed since, drugs, alcohol, or had any problems with mental/physical health. Except for extremely minor spasms in my muscles while I am trying to sleep rarely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sex View Post
    Wtf. You told me you didn't/couldn't smoke because of sports or some shit O_o .
    When you have ADD or some other diseases, weed can make you schizo.

    Meanwhile,

    Quote Originally Posted by noidea View Post
    reason?
    If you're asking about the reason for the hospital, I broke/damaged my ankle really badly.

    Now I don't know if you're familiar with the hospitals in Quebec - I spent 20 hours waiting to see a doctor, slept there and all, in the end I just left saying fuck that shit, I'm not spending two nights in an hospital to see a crappy doctor for five mins.

    Point is, when you have 20 hours to spend with nothing but a wall to look at and a broken ankle - you WANT weed.

    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
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    Holy shit I feel for you bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigue View Post
    When you have ADD or some other diseases, weed can make you schizo. Just see post above :P
    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    I never had any history of behavioral problems, insanity or anything out of sorts.
    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    I started smoking weed more and more often until it was about once or twice a week. About 5 months after that I smoked some weed like normal except
    Kool theory, bro

    Too bad it isn't provable, and I don't have Attention Deficit Disorder or any other problems before or since. :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigue View Post
    I spent 20 hours waiting to see a doctor, slept there and all
    I say random shit when I'm tired like that, don't mind me :X

    I'm not making shit up though, clinical studies showed that ADD, weed and schyzophrenia were linked, but that a mentally healthy person wouldn't develop schyzophrenia only from weed exposure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigue View Post
    I say random shit when I'm tired like that, don't mind me :X

    I'm not making shit up though, clinical studies showed that ADD, weed and schyzophrenia were linked, but that a mentally healthy person wouldn't develop schyzophrenia only from weed exposure.
    "Shouldnt" is the keyword, even then it is possible and thats an understatement, people forget weed is a mind altering substance.. and shouldn't be taken lightly just because of speculation.

    I think about it this way, it isn't worth risking going through 3 total months of insomnia to be high for a few hours... not even including all the other list of problems caused from all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    "Shouldnt" is the keyword, even then it is possible and thats an understatement, people forget weed is a mind altering substance.. and shouldn't be taken lightly just because of speculation.

    I think about it this way, it isn't worth risking going through 3 total months of insomnia to be high for a few hours... not even including all the other list of problems caused from all that.
    So don't smoke. Obviously something in your brain/body isn't right with THC (which is very odd and rare, so please don't act like this is a common thing, what you went through), so it should be common sense to not do it..

    And I didn't see any reason why I shouldn't smoke weed due to your story. Sorry, but people die from placebos. Not anything new.

    I do, however, know that it's not smart at all to smoke weed that's laced, unless you're experienced with the laced drug (still I wouldn't smoke any laced weed, even though I've done my fair share of recreational drugs, just because I don't like any other drugs effects, other than weed, of course). My friend Nicole smoked a bowl that was laced with PCP. That in itself is terrible, but the worse part is that her best friend (who she smoked with) didn't tell her until after. And it was laced with freaking PCP..

    Here's a story for anyone who may want to try/have friends want to try PCP: My parents are drug and alcohol counselors, so they inform me on drugs all the time. My mom told me that if I ever do drugs, to stick with weed and shrooms, but I don't like hardcore psychedelics (I say hardcore because marijuana is a psychedelic hallucinogen, but it's very mild), so I only smoke weed. Anyway. They were telling me about one of their good friends (who was an ex-patient) who was in treatment for alcohol (I don't drink very often, which most people find odd, since I love being out of it due to weed, but I've a phobia of regurgitation, along with a few other things (I've anxiety and depression, so I have panic attacks semi-frequently, and I've tried to kill myself a few times), and I always think I'll throw up errwhere if I drink), and he had tried PCP one time in his life. No other drugs, just alcohol and PCP once. Anywho, later in his life, 20-40 years after he took PCP (or some crazy long time like that), he had a relapse (I think that's the correct term.. read on), and he thought he was a bird so he jumped out a window and died.

    CUHRAZAY, right? Right. And now this chick, Nicole, thinks weed is bad because of how screwed up she was. And I'm worried about her since I know that any time she could just rip out her stomach to feed a giraffe or something.

    :<

    But in better news! I'm turning 16 in three days, so ima smoke and it'll be a jolly good time. :>

    But the only thing is, I've noticed my memory has been less than decent. Tonight I was standing at the grocery store looking at cheese for half an hour because I couldn't remember what the name of the cheese was. >_>

    But I've always had bad memory (glue-sniffer from third to fifth grade :<).

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    Quote Originally Posted by i luffs yeww View Post
    I've noticed my memory has been less than decent. Tonight I was standing at the grocery store looking at cheese for half an hour because I couldn't remember what the name of the cheese was.
    There's a reason why it's called dope - oh and as I mentioned earlier in this thread "It fucks up your head" (Sorry for profanity)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycrosism View Post
    There's a reason why it's called dope - oh and as I mentioned earlier in this thread "It fucks up your head" (Sorry for profanity)
    The memory loss hasn't been from marijuana, it's because I was taking anti-depressants, which screwed up a lot of stuff for me. I don't remember why I said it in the first place.

    And, again, yes, it does "fuck up your head." That's usually the point of drugs.

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    So you continue to do drugs even though you know they are fucking up your head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycrosism View Post
    So you continue to do drugs even though you know they are fucking up your head?
    Marijuana only messes with your brain during the 'high,' which is only about two to three hours. Alcohol is much worse.

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    Dunno but someone here might find this interesting.

    This fifth brain began to appear about 4,000 years ago in the first leisure-class civilizations and has been increasing statistically in recent centuries (even before the Drug Revolution), a fact demonstrated by the hedonic art of India, China, Rome and other affluent societies. More recently, Ornstein and his school have demonstrated with electroencephalograms that this circuit represents the first jump from the linear left lobe of the brain to the analogical right lobe.

    The opening and imprinting of this circuit has been the preoccupation of "technicians of the occult"—Tantric shamans and hatha yogis. While the fifth tunnel-reality can be achieved by sensory deprivation, social isolation, physiological stress or severe shock (ceremonial terror tactics, as practiced by such rascal-gurus as Don Juan Matus or Aleister Crowley), it has traditionally been reserved to the educated aristocracy of leisure societies who have solved the four terrestrial survival problems.

    About 20,000 years ago, the specific fifth brain neurotransmitter was discovered by shamans in the Caspian Sea area of Asia and quickly spread to other wizards throughout Eurasia and Africa. It is, of course, cannabis. Weed. Mother Mary Jane.

    It is no accident that the pot-head generally refers to his neural state as "high" or "spaced-out." The transcendence of gravitational, digital, linear, either-or, Aristotelian, Newtonian, Euclidean, planetary orientations (circuits I-IV) is, in evolutionary perspective, part of our neurological preparation for the inevitable migration off our home planet, now beginning.
    From http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm

    Basically, marijuana doesnt "mess" with your brain or do stuff its not meant to, it's "unlocking" other circuits of conciousness which we, as a race, will eventually evolve to use naturally. Other ways to unlock are meditation, etc.
    I smoke weed daily btw, have for ~2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Claw View Post
    Basically, marijuana doesnt "mess" with your brain or do stuff its not meant to, it's "unlocking" other circuits of conciousness which we, as a race, will eventually evolve to use naturally. Other ways to unlock are meditation, etc.
    I smoke weed daily btw, have for ~2 years.
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    Hahaha, was wondering when someone would pull out the 'drugs open your mind' argument. As a follow up on that, this is something that I heard through word of mouth, not something that I have done propper research on post-wiki, so don't take it as fact but rather as an informed opinion:

    While we normally only use 10% of the brain (discussable), LSD makes you use 90%, therefore actually enhancing your use of the brain during the trip. Now which parts it actually affects and if the normal usage is only 10% I don't know.

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    There's no denying that... I feel like I gained quite of brain capacity after experiencing enough mind altered states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Claw View Post
    Dunno but someone here might find this interesting.



    From http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm

    Basically, marijuana doesnt "mess" with your brain or do stuff its not meant to, it's "unlocking" other circuits of conciousness which we, as a race, will eventually evolve to use naturally. Other ways to unlock are meditation, etc.
    I smoke weed daily btw, have for ~2 years.
    So your basically saying monks are pretty much pot-heads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasta Magician View Post
    Hahaha, was wondering when someone would pull out the 'drugs open your mind' argument. As a follow up on that, this is something that I heard through word of mouth, not something that I have done propper research on post-wiki, so don't take it as fact but rather as an informed opinion:

    While we normally only use 10% of the brain (discussable), LSD makes you use 90%, therefore actually enhancing your use of the brain during the trip. Now which parts it actually affects and if the normal usage is only 10% I don't know.

    ~RM
    Normally the brain filters out a lot of information, and I have read (not studies) that some drugs (LSD, psilocybin, mescaline) just makes the brain stop filtering out this information. Which sounds like what you are saying, but I may be wrong.

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    Either my post wasn't clear or I can sense some retardation in the air.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    People who support marijuana are not hippies, that was the 70's. The correct term is marijuana activists.
    I lol'd. "Marijuana activist"..

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    You say you don't have an opinion but you're posting biased stereotypical comments from both sides...May I suggest you know what you're talking about before posting and not just repeating what you've heard?
    Well, which side am I taking then? I'm posting biased stereotypical comments from both sides because thats what these "debates" are always filled with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    Weed has never been about getting people to use less alcohol or cigs, where the hell did you get that from?
    Alot of retards use that as an excuse to legalize weed. It's one of the most common excuses, actually. Weird that it hasn't come up on this thread yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    Why are you associating weed with criminal drug abuse? Those don't go together in anyway..
    Hurr durr, maybe because it's an illegal drug and you get a damn criminal record for possession/selling/using(not sure really, might depend on your location) at least here you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    Yes, it is possible for idiots to be a criminal and smoke weed, but it's not just the weed, it's other circumstances too (Other drugs). So since I smoke weed, then it's not possible for me to work as a programmer? I had a 6 month contract with a web programming company and smoked every day.
    I didn't say it's impossible for you to work as a programmer. What I did say is gl finding a decent job with a criminal record. It's stupid to think that if there are a couple equally qualified people applying for a job and one has a criminal record it'll just be overlooked. It's an insta-lose for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    So you're saying that people who work in the fast food industry are nothing but pot heads?
    Plenty of students and general failures do (and now you'll ask me something like "SO IS THE C.E.O OF MCDONALDS A FAILURE HURR DURR"). What I was saying was that you're more likely to get stuck with a shit job like that if you have a criminal record.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    You keep throwing the word hippies around and saying they are dirty and lazy, get your fucking facts straight you little prick, actually educate yourself before posting shit you have no idea about.
    They are lazy and dirty. I'm sorry, but that's how it goes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    You're saying pot smokers don't work, well you're wrong on all accounts.
    Where did I say that? You're purposely twisting my words around and misunderstanding me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    Also, most employers really don't care if you have a drug record as long as it's reasonable.
    I lol'd.. Oh wow... Now, please, show me the facts about this?

    I just said that the reason I stay away from weed is that I don't want to get any shit for it, I wasn't bashing weed or it's users really, I just said that the main reason I stay away from it is because it's illegal and I don't want to get shit for many years for something stupid I do now. I don't have any burning need to smoke it so I'll see if it ever becomes legal and then think about it. I have nothing againts people who do smoke it, I don't really give a fuck about anything that people do as long as it's not directly bothering me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    You sir, have pissed me off with your uneducated remarks about a subject that you yourself said you don't have an opinion on. Like I said before, actually learn and educate yourself about a subject before responding with bullshit.
    As I've said already in this post, the only thing I was making remarks of was getting a criminal record and the shit that comes along with it.

    I don't understand why people get so defensive when someone says something "bad" about weed. If you even imply that it can cause someone harm people react as if you just showed them a video on which you dig their dead grandmothers corpse up and stick your penis in it's eye socket. But as I said, these days this is one of the easiest things to troll people about, along with religion, global warming and 9/11.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camo Developer View Post
    One last thing, so all shitty guitar players are pot heads?
    *sigh*

    Quote Originally Posted by bionicle1800 View Post
    So your basically saying monks are pretty much pot-heads?
    I think I read about some monks who were able to get some "weed-like" effects through meditation. However, it was a long time ago and I'm too lazy to try searching for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoF View Post
    these days this is one of the easiest things to troll people about,
    So true

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoF View Post
    They are lazy and dirty. I'm sorry, but that's how it goes.
    How about you have a nice read before you go dissing an entre cultue / lifestyle?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie
    Hippies opposed political and social orthodoxy, choosing a gentle and nondoctrinaire ideology that favored peace, love and personal freedom, perhaps best epitomized by The Beatles' song "All You Need is Love"
    "Do your own thing, wherever you have to do it and whenever you want. Drop out. Leave society as you have known it. Leave it utterly. Blow the mind of every straight person you can reach. Turn them on, if not to drugs, then to beauty, love, honesty, fun."
    Many embrace the hippie values of peace, love, and community, and hippies may still be found in bohemian enclaves around the world.
    Much of hippie clothing was self-made in defiance of corporate culture, and hippies often purchased their clothes from flea markets and second-hand shops.
    he peace symbol was developed in the UK as a logo for the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, and was embraced by U.S. anti-war protestors during the 1960s. Hippies were often pacifists and participated in non-violent political demonstrations, such as civil rights marches, the marches on Washington D.C., and anti–Vietnam War demonstrations
    "They mostly prefer to be stoned, but most of them want peace, and they want an end to this stuff."
    Hippie political expression often took the form of "dropping out" of society to implement the changes they sought. Politically motivated movements aided by hippies include the back to the land movement of the 1960s, cooperative business enterprises, alternative energy, the free press movement, and organic farming
    Harder drugs, such as amphetamines and heroin were also used in hippie settings; however, these drugs were often disdained, even among those who used them, because they were recognized as harmful and addictive.
    The legacy of the hippie movement continues to permeate Western society.[86] In general, unmarried couples of all ages feel free to travel and live together without societal disapproval.[61][87] Frankness regarding sexual matters has become more common, and the rights of homosexual, bisexual and transsexual people, as well as people who choose not to categorize themselves at all, have expanded.[88] Religious and cultural diversity has gained greater acceptance.
    In the UK, there are many new age travellers who are known as hippies to outsiders, but prefer to call themselves the Peace Convoy.

    Finally, not from wiki but rather bob marley...
    Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
    None but ourselves can free our minds.
    Welcome to the culture of freedom.
    If only you realized that it is due to the hippies that there are so many anti-war, green and rights equalization movements you would perhaps not be so fast to judge an entire culture. Some even came to call it a religion.

    I'd be surprised if you haven't ever considered joining a hippie-influenced cause. either on a march or even just a facebook, such as "Save Haiti" or "End the war"

    ~RM

    I & I know Zion. It is in the spirit, body and mind of every one of us
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