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    Default How widespread is cheating in RS?

    Can we assume that everyone in the top 10,000 of the high scores is a cheater? I was looking at all the people who have 200,000,000 in a skill and I was thinking there is NO way a normal human being could sit through that amount of boredom.

    There is a guy, who is closing in on 200mil exp for runecrafting. That is a very slow skill, so I calculated out that he will have spent at least 4000 hours on that skill. Just for a comparison, a full time job is 2080 hours per year. So that means that this guy has runecrafted at least 40 hours a week for almost two years.

    I just don't think that is humanly possible without some sort of 'help'.

    And there is someone on the high scores with 200mil in 5 skills, if I remember correctly. That is just too insane. Either this person has absolutely no life, or they are a very accomplished scripter. I wonder which it is? If they are a scripter they get my complete admiration for not getting caught after all those hours.

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    Cheating is fairly widespread, but you also truly do have "no-lifers" that are 100% legit and just play a ton of RS.

    Also a lot of the player that are high up there in the high scores have been playing for 2-3 years+ so it's entirely possible to do that all by hand. Just quite boring.

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    The current player with most Slayer experience has 146,459,157 xp.
    Slayer is so incredibly slow to train, I'd say it's around 20-25k/hr at maximum.
    Let's say he makes 22k xp/hr.

    146459157 / 22000 = 6657.
    6657 hours / 24 = 277 days = 39 weeks = almost 10 months nonstop

    I highly doubt that.

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    A more realistic scenerio is 6 hours a day. So, if we have 6657 hours, divided by 6 hours a day, that gives us 1109 days of training slayer. Thats a little over three years.

    I just don't understand how they can get away with that. They obviously are cheating somehow, either by scripting or hiring some 10 year old in China to play their character 18 hours a day for 6 cents an hour. Regardless, this is just not humanly possible within the rules. So the real question is... how are they getting away with it?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

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    Back in the the good old days of runescape, before trade limits and such... there was a thing called servicing.

    World 66 had it set up where you could easily sit there craft laws over and over again with excess runners... and people were doing the same type of thing at the nature altar, only making billions of gp and millions of exp with little to no effort. The same thing could of been applied to numerous skills such as crafting/fletching ect..

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    Some people just literally have no life...I know someone who's maxed stats, and RS is their whole world. She plays for literally 15+ hours a day, and has for 4 years. It's kind of sad, really...no time for her kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Claw View Post
    Some people just literally have no life...I know someone who's maxed stats, and RS is their whole world. She plays for literally 15+ hours a day, and has for 4 years. It's kind of sad, really...no time for her kids.
    At least being a drug addict or alcoholic sounds better...

    What a lame addiction x[

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    Back in the the good old days of runescape, before trade limits and such... there was a thing called servicing.

    World 66 had it set up where you could easily sit there craft laws over and over again with excess runners... and people were doing the same type of thing at the nature altar, only making billions of gp and millions of exp with little to no effort. The same thing could of been applied to numerous skills such as crafting/fletching ect..

    yah servicing helped me get my rc lvl up greatly. i also used to be able to get the 2x nats too... stupid trade limit

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    I laugh at the amount of bots I've come across while playing RS. I can guarantee that 90% of the people dummy cursing, draynor willow chopping and yak killing are bots.
    As soon as RSbot goes out of date, they all disappear from these locations.
    A friend of mine got 99 wc in about 3 weeks all on the willows at draynor using rsbot... I was sure he would get banned. But obviously Jagex don't really give a crap.

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    I don't think it's that wide spread.
    I remember the good old days when
    I thought cheating was next to impossible,
    and I never thought otherwise.
    Then I found out about SCAR and it's
    color possibilities, and I like it! :P

    Haha, RuneScape is very easy to get lost in
    if you're not paying attention. :P

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    Not very at all.. a lot of people I've seen don't even know it's possible
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    I remember a few years ago when farming came out, I looked at Zezima's stats.
    After three days he had lvl 75, two days after that he was lvl 99...

    It's only possible if you play 24/7, which I doubt he would have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterious123 View Post
    I remember a few years ago when farming came out, I looked at Zezima's stats.
    After three days he had lvl 75, two days after that he was lvl 99...

    It's only possible if you play 24/7, which I doubt he would have done.
    He's one of my face book friends, though he refuses to talk about RS these days, I'm leaning towards the theory, that he use to share the account with several people in his dorm room when he was in college


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    I'm addicted, but I really have nothing better to do... I'm combat 136, 8 skill capes(about to have 9 in like 2 days), 2094 total, and I love it(the account is 100% legit). RS has helped me quit smoking, and use my spare time doing something easy and semi-entertaining. Think what you will about me, but without rs, I'm bored 24/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marpis View Post
    The current player with most Slayer experience has 146,459,157 xp.
    Slayer is so incredibly slow to train, I'd say it's around 20-25k/hr at maximum.
    Let's say he makes 22k xp/hr.

    146459157 / 22000 = 6657.
    6657 hours / 24 = 277 days = 39 weeks = almost 10 months nonstop

    I highly doubt that.
    If you look at most of his other stats in comparison they are pretty low compared to his combat stats. He obviously really likes training his combat. 70 in a stat isn't that much when compared to 150M in 3 combat related stats and slayer. So he obviously spends a lot of time on those skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimthesoundman View Post
    A more realistic scenerio is 6 hours a day. So, if we have 6657 hours, divided by 6 hours a day, that gives us 1109 days of training slayer. Thats a little over three years.

    I just don't understand how they can get away with that. They obviously are cheating somehow, either by scripting or hiring some 10 year old in China to play their character 18 hours a day for 6 cents an hour. Regardless, this is just not humanly possible within the rules. So the real question is... how are they getting away with it?

    Inquiring minds want to know!
    Averaging 6 hours a day the past 3 years isn't that much. Some days are probably more or less hours than the next. Maybe the exp per hour is even greater than 25-30k, you never know.


    Cheating overall is widely used I would say through most people, just not to the extent that we enjoy using on certain characters here. On my current 'main' I don't use any scripts that require more than 2 clicks for walking (i honestly think more walking = greater ban chance).

    But there are people I know that have told me that the only thing they see possible to auto easily is high alching since all you need is a auto-clicker. Which 'legit' player say they have used because high-alching is so boring, but they only use it for like 30 min max they say.

    "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently" (Henry Ford)


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    I'm sure alot of it is legit play as mad as it seems. Got to remember the game has been out a long time and people are deeply addicted to it, playing 7 days a week without failure.

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    I don't understand how someone can runecraft for +40 hours a week for like 2 years.. Even for some obsessed no-life it's just... Unbelievable. Just endlessly running the same path for thousands of hours, not to mention Phoenix Odin has almost all other stats at 99, which takes ages too.. Weird that the only under 99's he has are herblore and smithing which are quick and fairly easy but really expensive skills, and he should've made plenty of money from runecrafting..

    I've always suspected that accounts like Phoenix Odin and Lover Romeo are just Jagex employees accounts..

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    I have visited phoenix odin clan chat quite many times and he is like always there and he speaks to ppl so i highly doubt he is botting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antti mies View Post
    I have visited phoenix odin clan chat quite many times and he is like always there and he speaks to ppl so i highly doubt he is botting.
    What, you can't speak and bot at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by code841 View Post
    What, you can't speak and bot at the same time?
    Sure, you just have to be careful...I think the Auto-Responder is the single best Anti-ban you can have..."IF SET UP CORRECTLY" ...I think Jaghex knows it's possible, but it's not probable you have 3+ hands..IE. You're either typing OR moving the mouse, but not doing both....confirmed, both=ban...some will argue that pausing to reply will shorten the productivity, but IMHO, it's the best insurance(aside from autoing responsibly) you can have...

    I was aware of RSC and cheating for it back in the day, however I didn't start playing until a few months into RS2..I was aware of underground sites and trolled a bit, but I actually use to enjoy the game, so I nolyfed a decent account. Due to ignorance and greed on my part it was banned, that's when I started autoing for fun...

    There are some parts of the game that are enjoyable, and I think if you were to automate them, it would take alot away from the experience...Treasure Trails for example...One of the only things I really enjoy..the challenge of decrypting the clue...overcoming the obstacles of traveling to remote destinations...and the anticipation and uncertainty of the reward....However, I'll admit...it would be nice to log onto your "Green Dragon Autoer" and see a piece of 3rd age in your inventory


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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    Back in the the good old days of runescape, before trade limits and such... there was a thing called servicing.

    World 66 had it set up where you could easily sit there craft laws over and over again with excess runners... and people were doing the same type of thing at the nature altar, only making billions of gp and millions of exp with little to no effort. The same thing could of been applied to numerous skills such as crafting/fletching ect..
    I remember this.
    My brother made a few million gp in a few days on his main (100% legit) law running.

    I then read in the RSwiki about trade limits and the trade limit riots.

    Sad day.

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