
Originally Posted by
Tad
EDIT: Before responding to any of my responses to your quotes, please answer my question at the end of this post.
I already switched. Right now, I was/am trying to figure out why you guys don't want to improve (in the botting aspect), and I see why.
As for reflection being fixed, who's fixing it and who's ready to maintain it?
I don't believe there's anything reflection struggles with. All the same, yes, a little bit of color would be beneficial, but, if you want to become a superior botting community (which is not SRL's goal), you would need to have take the backseat to Reflection.
Armies are nearly pointless nowadays. If you're limited to things like chicken fighting with a bunch of level 3's, you're not bound for success.
I think the point Camaro was trying to make is that SRL can't keep up (using color) with everything Jagex has been doing. If there was a well maintained reflection, not only could the Devs find time to make anti-randoms, but other people could contribute as well.
Copyright infringement? I don't know much about copyrights, but if that was true, why wouldn't Jagex get rid of most botters by just shutting down every Java bot? As for honor, I don't see the point of honor whilst cheating on an online video game, but that's a difference of opinion I suppose.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean not enough money has been invested in SRL? Or are you talking about the exclusion of a public black market and the like? I'm guessing the latter, which I agree is a major reason why SRL isn't a large community. But, other than that, you just don't see the same quality (by quality I mean botting quality, not scripting quality) or quantity of scripts at SRL, in addition to the flaws of the include.
This is true, and this is what I didn't realize up until a few months ago. Logic, yes, though I would argue that any type of programming requires and teaches logic. Mathematics? Maybe I've been missing something, but, like I said in one of my other posts, it seems to me only about 5% of scripters actually utilize the advanced mathematics that can come with SRL. Social... Yes, that is what SRL is best at; having a good community.
That's what Camaro was suggesting; an antidote to the lack of time that most Devs experience. But, again, that's not SRL's philosophy.
He stated it was a problem, but not the [main] problem. I see this not as an attack at Simba, but rather a proposed change in philosophy.
Yes, I did. I don't SCAR script, vote on applications, or the like anymore.
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. "Doesn't that tell you enough?" - What does it tell me? It tells me nobody is motivated enough to actually update it. You're telling everyone who wants reflection to either build up and maintain it or go to another bot. Most are probably doing the latter; in effect killing any chance of bringing it back.
Again, like I said above, an antidote to, primarily the time, it takes to make something color would be reflection.
Most of my arguments above are assuming SRL wants to become a better autoing community, which is not the case, so I guess they don't apply. What I don't understand now is how you can try to do both: become great autoers yet keep the challenges of color there. I'm not satisfied with Yohojo's response. If you support reflection or OpenGL, most new scripters will take one or the other instead of color (Most of you came here with the intention of RS botting, not programming, so it's reasonable to think people would choose the more advanced techniques). Your goal is to give people the experience of coding with many challenges, correct? By supporting those things, you are, in effect, vastly decreasing the 'challenge' that you're looking are. Again, I don't see a middle route as being feasible.
Please, no flaming. I'm genuinely interested as to what the reasoning behind this is. I don't know the answer to my question, I'm looking for a logical response.