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    Quote Originally Posted by cycrosism View Post
    Why dont we just update the hooks for reflection then? Or get them from quarterz?
    Because that is not what we need. We need some of the mathematical calculations we haven't yet been able to find.

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    I do not understand one thing, you say that you don't have the time, but still, you prefer to script in an outdated manner which require much more time ... why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post

    SCAR could compete with rsbot in terms of reflection, just because it's not a java bot like some of you say it is and will never compete in the java world, this isn't true. The plugin folder makes it possible (especially in the future with scar 3.5 luna and 4.0+ where compiling time run time will be near pure delphi) it's more about how reflection is used. I mean when you give reflection to an rsbot script kiddie the script isn't going to be nearly as good as if you gave it to anyone who is experienced in color botting, even if their base is entirely java and ours is kinda a rigged up plugin.
    If that was partially referring to my post, what I meant is that methaforically ice hockey players don't forcibly have to try and play football...

    Also whoever posted about not supporting OpenGL, I wouldn't be surprised if OpenGL became more supported over here than reflection did, OpenGL can be something SRL came up with first (thanks to Silentwolf naturally)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Garrett3 View Post
    On this page (5), I started realizing that most people decided that reflection isn't really worth having, which makes me assume some shit went down when some of the staffers stepped up and acted mature about it. So I don't really understand, but apparently people think that a SCAR developed by a crack team (Wizzup? by the looks of it) and open sourced will be wayyyy better than the SCAR that we have. Yes, everyone knows SCAR right now is pretty shit, and everyone is looking forward to Simba, but everyone agreed that SCAR 2.15 was shit too, then Freddy came out with SCAR 3, and we all know where that got us. I'm just saying that I'm not going to believe how much better it is until it really happens.
    • Crack team? I don't call one person a team.
    • SCAR 2.03 wasn't shit, it was pretty good.


    You don't have to believe shit. However, I would prefer it if you would at least dig a bit into the subjects you're relentlessly flaming.
    There are already over 20 Simba testers, and SRL seems to work quite well with it, even though it lacks some functionality. Simba's debugging system has also helped us fix some bugs in SRL already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cartmann View Post
    I do not understand one thing, you say that you don't have the time, but still, you prefer to script in an outdated manner which require much more time ... why?
    It doesn't cost much more time. Plus, I'm doing this for fun, I don't cheat just so that I can hump runescape pixels.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    • Crack team? I don't call one person a team.
    • SCAR 2.03 wasn't shit, it was pretty good.


    You don't have to believe shit. However, I would prefer it if you would at least dig a bit into the subjects you're relentlessly flaming.
    There are already over 20 Simba testers, and SRL seems to work quite well with it, even though it lacks some functionality. Simba's debugging system has also helped us fix some bugs in SRL already.
    Maybe you're right, maybe you're touchy about the subject or some shit. Knowing you, you're probably right. I personally know nothing about Simba, all I know is that it's open source SCAR, and that you are making it rather than Freddy.

    Moreover, I wasn't relentlessly flaming. This is an opinionated thread, and I am entitled to write an overly opinionated post if I want. It doesn't make me more right or less right or more wrong, or however you'd look at it, but as I've said, I'm aware that I know nothing about the inner workings of SRL, and since I was away for 3 months, I only know what I think, and nothing else. I'm not going to sift through 3 months of posts to find all of the information and shit about Simba, as I really don't care about it. I just shared my opinion to clear anything up for people who were wondering about anything that I mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Garrett3 View Post
    all I know is that it's open source SCAR, and that you are making it rather than Freddy.
    There is several people working on Simba, not only Wizzup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasta Magician View Post
    Because that is not what we need. We need some of the mathematical calculations we haven't yet been able to find.

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    I found the formulas its jsut amatter of figureing out the instances of the classes now

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Pizzle View Post
    I found the formulas its jsut amatter of figureing out the instances of the classes now
    If you are talking about the "formulas" in rsbot then you didn't find them

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    Quote Originally Posted by mormonman View Post
    If you are talking about the "formulas" in rsbot then you didn't find them

    he said that we didnt ahve the formulas which we do I may have used a bad choice of words there but none the less we still ahve the formulas

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Pizzle View Post
    he said that we didnt ahve the formulas which we do I may have used a bad choice of words there but none the less we still ahve the formulas
    As to this thread: Same shit, different pile
    As to you: GJ

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    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    It doesn't cost much more time. Plus, I'm doing this for fun, I don't cheat just so that I can hump runescape pixels.
    I script in SCAR with SRL to make Runescape bots for solely benefits, and as far as I'm concerned, this is a community based on botting with the SCAR client in Runescape, no?
    Then why would you on purpose use an outdated method to complicate it?

    As to Yohojo:
    Well, scripting with JAVA might be an ease to create a auto miner, IMO that's a good thing, seeing as you are able to raise your bars from a 3 clicking script.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartmann View Post
    I script in SCAR with SRL to make Runescape bots for solely benefits, and as far as I'm concerned, this is a community based on botting with the SCAR client in Runescape, no?
    Then why would you on purpose use an outdated method to complicate it?
    I already noted that you did it solely for benefits, hence my remark about it. Do you even realize that SCAR was never made for reflection?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    I already noted that you did it solely for benefits, hence my remark about it. Do you even realize that SCAR was never made for reflection?
    I presume everybody bots for solely benefits? I haven't seen any users giving away free accounts or rsgp yet, and I've been here for some time now.

    Please don't get me wrong because of my colour, I do understand that SCAR wasn't made for reflection but the procedure language Pascal, but that doesn't mean you don't have to use it, seeing as it seems that reflection performs task "better"(more precise and faster) than colour, aye?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartmann View Post
    I presume everybody bots for solely benefits? I haven't seen any users giving away free accounts or rsgp yet, and I've been here for some time now.
    If I was here for benefits, I would ask you to pay for SRL.
    I've botted a lot, and it was never really for the profit. JageX kinda killed that anyway...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cartmann View Post
    Please don't get me wrong because of my colour, I do understand that SCAR wasn't made for reflection but the procedure language Pascal, but that doesn't mean you don't have to use it, seeing as it seems that reflection performs task "better"(more precise and faster) than colour, aye?
    Does it perform better? I haven't seen any working scripts in a long time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    Does it perform better? I haven't seen any working scripts in a long time.
    When it works, it does have somewhat better possibilities...
    As some scripts can't be made with color, we both know that.

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    The real problem is this is just a collection of individuals, not an organization. The true solution is to make this into a "programming army" and assign each member a task he has to complete if he wants to remain part of the organization.

    And if that happens, each worker bee will contribute his own little bit of pollen, not enough to stand on his own, but once the queen assembles the component parts, then you have a kick ass script.

    Here's what I would do if I was boss:
    1. Find out who is really contributing to the site. Eliminate those who don't contribute.
    2. Assign ranks as trainee, programmer, advanced programmer, and manger.
    3. Pick a project, for instance a farming script.
    4. Assign a collection of people to make the script.
    5. A team of three or four would be responsible for walking/teleporting between farming sites.
    6. Another team would be responsible for the raking/prepping/fertilizing.
    7. Another team would be responsible for a routine which fills the compost bin.
    8. Another team would be responsible for checking/maintaining/plant cure/amulet of nature.
    9. Another team would be responsible for harvesting and banking.
    10. You would need to replicate the process between different types of farming patches.

    So if each team had three members, and each team has a week to come up with their one function or module, then in a week the manager would have all the raw components finished. All he would have to do is assemble them into the main loop. Repeat every week and soon you would have dozens of scripts.

    This hypothetical farming script would take five teams of three members, or 15 members, plus one or two managers. Managers would keep the teams on task and focused on the end result without getting sidetracked.

    So in a week 17 people could assemble a kick ass farming script. That is the way REAL BUSINESSES WORK! If we need to defeat Jagex, which has 5 million dollars income every month and a staff of 400, we need to quit acting like "L33T hakerzzzz" 12 year olds and get organized.

    Organization is the key. Right now there are two or three people who are carrying 75% of the weight, and that's not right. Of course, part of this may be paranoia on their part but I'm not qualified to comment on that. If they read this they will know who they are. Maybe those folks need to open the blinds a bit and let other people see what they are doing or they will burn out and the whole SCAR/SRL will collapse like a house of cards. Just my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaro' View Post
    So now, instead of sitting in the corner with 'advanced' color, which isn't getting the job done, we need to move on.
    Hmm... I have been running my own scar script that makes me 1m/hr with no problems But I have to agree that reflection is way easier for walking.


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    Has anyone noticed that RSBot solves EVERY random with ease?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimthesoundman View Post
    The real problem is this is just a collection of individuals, not an organization. The true solution is to make this into a "programming army" and assign each member a task he has to complete if he wants to remain part of the organization.
    It's a brilliant plan which would very likely work if developers were paid. As they're not, you can only expect them to do as much as they feel like doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasta Magician View Post
    It's a brilliant plan which would very likely work if developers were paid. As they're not, you can only expect them to do as much as they feel like doing.

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    Indeed, that's a great idea, but personally as soon as I am requested to be paid(or anyone else for developing scripts) I would leave. Money corrupts communities and that's why I love being here. This is a true community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimthesoundman View Post
    The real problem is this is just a collection of individuals, not an organization. The true solution is to make this into a "programming army" and assign each member a task he has to complete if he wants to remain part of the organization.

    And if that happens, each worker bee will contribute his own little bit of pollen, not enough to stand on his own, but once the queen assembles the component parts, then you have a kick ass script.

    Here's what I would do if I was boss:
    1. Find out who is really contributing to the site. Eliminate those who don't contribute.
    2. Assign ranks as trainee, programmer, advanced programmer, and manger.
    3. Pick a project, for instance a farming script.
    4. Assign a collection of people to make the script.
    5. A team of three or four would be responsible for walking/teleporting between farming sites.
    6. Another team would be responsible for the raking/prepping/fertilizing.
    7. Another team would be responsible for a routine which fills the compost bin.
    8. Another team would be responsible for checking/maintaining/plant cure/amulet of nature.
    9. Another team would be responsible for harvesting and banking.
    10. You would need to replicate the process between different types of farming patches.

    So if each team had three members, and each team has a week to come up with their one function or module, then in a week the manager would have all the raw components finished. All he would have to do is assemble them into the main loop. Repeat every week and soon you would have dozens of scripts.

    This hypothetical farming script would take five teams of three members, or 15 members, plus one or two managers. Managers would keep the teams on task and focused on the end result without getting sidetracked.

    So in a week 17 people could assemble a kick ass farming script. That is the way REAL BUSINESSES WORK! If we need to defeat Jagex, which has 5 million dollars income every month and a staff of 400, we need to quit acting like "L33T hakerzzzz" 12 year olds and get organized.

    Organization is the key. Right now there are two or three people who are carrying 75% of the weight, and that's not right. Of course, part of this may be paranoia on their part but I'm not qualified to comment on that. If they read this they will know who they are. Maybe those folks need to open the blinds a bit and let other people see what they are doing or they will burn out and the whole SCAR/SRL will collapse like a house of cards. Just my humble opinion.

    JIM
    You have some good points. We plan to reorganize SRL and get things to roll again soon. Simba is just the first step.



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    Nvm. it's pointless to even bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    You have some good points. We plan to reorganize SRL and get things to roll again soon. Simba is just the first step.
    I may be the only one, but if the idea becomes "Do this work in this timeframe, or get out", I will be choosing the getting out.

    SRL is a community, not a business. I'm personally not here to "Beat jagex" or whatever. But as I've said, I may be the only one. I wouldn't mind hearing the opinions of others on the subject, whether they are for or against either doing work or getting kicked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Garrett3 View Post
    I may be the only one, but if the idea becomes "Do this work in this timeframe, or get out", I will be choosing the getting out.

    SRL is a community, not a business. I'm personally not here to "Beat jagex" or whatever. But as I've said, I may be the only one. I wouldn't mind hearing the opinions of others on the subject, whether they are for or against either doing work or getting kicked out.
    +1
    I like the way things are right now within the community. There are things like POMS if you want to do stuff like that in a group, but you can still make your own script, and if you don't, no one yells at you. I didn't release a script until about a week ago since I got members, and that was great. I didn't have the time for it, and once i got the time, I ended up making, not one, but two scripts. If I was kicked out for not releasing/helping, I would not want to come back if I was allowed. If it was like that when i came, I would have just thought 'to hell with it' and closed that tab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimthesoundman View Post
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    I do not like that at all. What about the members of the community that dont have runescape memebers? What about the people that have contributed in the past, but are no longer active. Are you going to cut them out as well?

    SRL is about learning. Not about producing an awesome runescape script. Sure, a script can be thrown in there, but we are a group of thousands of people from around the world, that come together to learn and help one another.
    We are not a machine.
    We do not produce, produce and produce, but work together (just less organized than your ideal method).
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