rsbot had a good sw script![]()
rsbot had a good sw script![]()
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You thought wrong, in that case.![]()
If we really were afraid for this we wouldn't just close registration, we would close the forum. Apart from that, closing can only be seen as proof that we do violate the law, which we don't.
There are some reasons for closing registration I guess, but we are not closing because we are afraid to get sued. We're just going to change stuff under the hood. Forum restructures, big changes to SRL, the upcoming Simba project, etc. It is much easier to do with no newcomers all asking the same questions about the restructure until we're actually done with it.
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. But, in that case, why are they able to take RSBot down and not SRL? I don't see any major differences, other than a (slightly?) different technique to perform the exact same task ('slightly' refers to reflection vs BCEL). Or is the difference in methodology so great that it changes everything?
Since when/says who![]()

I'm not sure if the fact that SRL is free to use factors in there.....
e. and perhaps because we don't actually take a swipe at the Java code...(IE,"Infringement")
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I'm guessing that the fact their scripts and such are being sold, at least some, can become an issue. I don't know much about the laws regarding this issue, but I heard that the reason goldsellers in WoW couldn't be sued was because they were just 'selling' their own time spent on the game, and not actual game-related software/items. How true this is, I do not know.
I knew I'd become a geek the day I laughed myself to death after googling 'recursion'.
SRL isn't profit oriented. We don't allow script sales, we don't allow pixel sales, we don't allow anything money related.
No client hacking involved.
We don't deobfuscate or crack their code.
We don't use our knowledge of their code to our advantage. (SMART is not part of SRL, only an extension)
Seems like a huge difference to me.
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With all do respect Jagex knows about this community or actually 'Scar' a bit too well. Since three years ago, before I used Scar- And didn't know it was so great and... yata yata - I met one of the Jagex Mod, I still have the screenshot - And asked him about Runescape doing things about scar. He said they know about it and are working on it. If they didn't close any forum - it just means it's perfectly legal. They can only close ilegal sites which disobey the law, their rules can be disobeyed in sites. Look at cheat engine for example...
Nor was RSBot (unless you count their profit from advertising).
True, but it doesn't seem that significant in the grand scheme of things; the owners weren't profiting off of that.We don't allow script sales, we don't allow pixel sales, we don't allow anything money related.
Normally I would bring up reflection, but I suppose all of this is one of the reasons you never officially supported it.No client hacking involved.
We don't deobfuscate or crack their code.
We don't use our knowledge of their code to our advantage. (SMART is not part of SRL, only an extension)
Even so, I don't see a major difference in the final result of RSBot vs. SRL; automating tasks in RS. And, if I recall correctly (can't find the document now), in the iBot lawsuit, they were primarily focusing on the detrimental effects autoing (in general) causes to RS. Do they not have the grounds by which to go after any autoing community, no matter their methods?
By the way, I'm not looking for an argument in case anyone feels that way, I'm looking for answers to this part of all these events that I don't understand.
I invested 1M gp in coal yesterday because of this. Lets see what happens =)
I think, Speljohan alone made about 4k from the first two months? Don't forget about the VIP sections.
VIP sections, they do.
I don't think they have any ground to stand on, no. Like I said, I didn't fully read it, but going by the law in my country I can't really think of anything serious issues.
If their only argument is that we ``cause them to lose money''... Linux causes Microsoft to lose money, but I don't see them file a lawsuit to the kernel.org developers anytime soon?![]()
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http://services.runescape.com/m=item...tem.ws?obj=453
:/ Sorry.
But in other news..
http://services.runescape.com/m=item...tem.ws?obj=440
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Hi, what a great few arguements have been thrown around. I respect the amount of decency the staff here have, as others have strictly thought of this as a good way to go
"We rock".
The site has gone down because its a Civil Case, not a Criminal Case.
It was announced that yes discussion of the bot can be upheld, but Jagex have pulled some very cheap tactics in this case.
They also brought up the fact that Qauters has profited from the VIP's on the site which was used against him.
The court had told him to shut down the site while the case is being solved, if he were to NOT uphold it he'd be paying in access of 1000 usd every day.
While others have mentioned that this site has got a Market section,it is not as bad as Sythe, who are known as the Market leaders as of late.
Once again, i won't be choosing sides, but im quiet certain the few people that might recognise my name would know i was a Staff member on the site.
Well, now that rsbot is down (or soon will be) the prices of coal WILL GO UP SOON. No botters = less coal/less coal being sold at low prices = only legits selling coal at regular mid + prices. Seems to me like an IDEAL time to buy coals!
In other news:
Made 1.15M off of iron!
I really don't see how that is applicable at all... I bet you less then 200 people actually botted with scar within the past year :/ Even if we have activity here, some of it is people just checking out the community, and another half just can't get it setup to work, so they just leave. So the ratio of using a bot to ban can not be compared to the two at all, as rsbot is used on a much grander scale.
Also, on terms of botting, my all around cooker I made for scar worked flawless for days, I implemented tpa's and such, but I post it for people, and it fails. I make the same cooker for rsbot, anyone can use, and runs for much longer.
Also, you guys are comparing rsbot to srl in different terms, rsbot was made strictly for runescape, not for general programming, you can't say rsbot was causing dumb people to not go further in life, the purpose of rsbot is not to be successful or to really improve programming language. (It has helped my knowledge of Java increasingly, as I look for deeper Java methods to make my scripts good.) The purpose of Rsbot is to auto at runescape. Period.
Lastly, the reason that srl can't be taken down on measures is pretty much because rsbot + nexus, you download a modified client, we do not.
Edit: That was my longest discussion post ever in this forums lol.
I do visit every 2-6 months
Stop the damn arguing and complaining. None of it means anything, or is getting anywhere. Let people think whatever they want, why does it matter to you? This useless argument has already been taken care of in this thread:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54793
NO MORE POSTS ABOUT COLOR/SCAR/SIMBA Vs RSBOT
I never argue, so I just wanted to get in the action for oncelol, but I agree, this thread is about rsbot.org being taken down lol.
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Ah, I completely forgot about the VIP section, good point.
As for losing money, IMO Linux and Microsoft are different because they're completely independent of each other. I still see your point though; that seems like a minor detail in comparison to the other things RSBot and iBot were guilty of, not to mention it would be hard to prove. Thanks for explaining![]()
So, I don't remember posting my big flame. Sorry..
I mean, I agree with what I said, but still.. sorry.
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