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    Its back up!

    Torch on water crashes the server =/

    NOOOO Link died again.......

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    I cant build for more than 10 seconds after connecting without my thing lagging out to the point where I get 1 frame per 30 seconds

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    If you need to remove a single block of TNT, you can place 26 stone blocks around it in 3x3x3 (6 faces + 8 corners + 12 edges). Set off the TNT right before you place the last one, and the stone will be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgby714 View Post
    Its back up!

    Torch on water crashes the server =/

    NOOOO Link died again.......
    I never die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runescape Pro View Post
    I never die.
    I rebuilt him btw :P

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    I'm thinking about starting a griefing server:
    Clone main server daily (/bi-daily)
    Run on a separate PC
    Full spawn privelages to everyone
    Crazy plugins (like low orbit ion cannon)
    Not 100% uptime

    Would run on the same IP, different port
    Interested in C# and Electrical Engineering? This might interest you.

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    F*ck... PoisonGodmachine just set off like 3k of TNT...

    E: img594.imageshack.us/img594/649/capture017.png
    E: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5388/capture017s.png
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    Smartzkid, would you please add me to the builders list?

    username: craigx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartzkid View Post

    Boreas and lordsaturn are now mods.
    Oh for fucks sake. Last night he was a complete idiot and was just blowing random shit up with TNT. We need to blacklist TNT.


    Also, You didn't give me building privs >.>
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    PosionGodMachine, did you do this? I saw 3000 + TNTS spread out alond the island.

    Theres more, but that is the most I can get in on one screenshot.


    Edit: Ninja'd by Zyt3x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    F*ck... PoisonGodmachine just set off like 3k of TNT...

    E: http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/649/capture017.png

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    We need more mods, less(read: none) tnt

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    and

    EDIT: I shrunk this link because I dont want you all loading 2 imgs
    http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3224/win02.jpg



    I can now make my castle in the ruin. I wanted to make an epic wasteland and put my even darker 'stone tower of death' in there.
    It will look like the evil fortress of doom
    Took me 3-4 hours to place all that TNT
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstrike View Post


    and

    EDIT: I shrunk this link because I dont want you all loading 2 imgs
    http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3224/win02.jpg



    I can now make my castle in the ruin. I wanted to make an epic wasteland and put my even darker 'stone tower of death' in there.
    It will look like the evil fortress of doom
    Took me 3-4 hours to place all that TNT
    You destroyed half a world for... A CASTLE ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish View Post
    You destroyed half a world for... A CASTLE ?
    Dont worry, definitely was not half the world. In fact, it's actually *much* smaller than half ! To give you an idea, Dgby714 walked 4 hours in one direction [or something like that], and you can traverse the area in the screenshot within a minute or so of what you see.

    Therefore, you're seeing what is probably 200x200 blocks, and the creator of the game says the map is 30,000 x 30,000, so the percentage of the map you see is a grand total of:

    0.00004% of the entire world map is in that picture above
    As to put it into perspective, an entire football field is usually 57600 square feet, yet the size of that land that I flattened would be equivalent to a mere 2 sq feet. Much much space left indeed. !

    Since i made it that the human has to walk pretty far out to reach the desolated land, no one will come across it except the most hardened of travelers


    EDIT2: Out of pure curiosity I plotted the size of how much land I take up [at the most]:
    Red dot [1 pixel] is how much I take up
    Grey background is known size of the map
    Cyan surrounding is so you can see it on the white background of SRL:

    \/ right here




    So therefore I believe it to be good enough for me to begin building this:

    Last edited by Cstrike; 10-25-2010 at 08:52 PM. Reason: updated fun facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstrike View Post
    Dont worry, definitely was not half the world. In fact, it's actually *much* smaller than half. To give you an idea, Dgby714 walked 4 hours in one direction [or something like that], and you can traverse that area in a minute or so of what you see.

    Therefore, you're seeing what is probably 200x200 blocks, and the creator of the game says the map is 30,000 x 30,000, so the percentage of the map you see is a grand total of:

    0.00004% of the entire world map

    Since i made it that the human has to walk pretty far out to reach the desolated land, no one will come across it except the most hardened of travelers.
    It was a pretty cool explosion

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstrike View Post
    Since i made it that the human has to walk pretty far out to reach the desolated land, no one will come across it except the most hardened of travelers
    No... Your a short walk from your first building.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaro' View Post
    It was a pretty cool explosion
    It was fun

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    Now it is time for some debate for the general thread:

    I believe TNT should NOT be blacklisted

    1. It is not only a useful thing at clearing terrain, but it is the easiest way to make underground valleys and clear out space for creating [whatever you want] underground. Unfortunately the map is only 64 units high AFAIK, and 64 units deep assuming we're at the middle. Without TNT were limited to miniature pathways underground-- unless others with much time can clean out many things.
      As such, limiting us to 64 height sucks (this is on Notch's part). I think that if there is 128+ for the skyline then I agree we don't need TNT, since there's more than enough room to get buildings.


    2. We have obsidian which is resistant to TNT, and can disarm it.
      Obsidian sucks to remove but it isn't that bad

    3. If people are caught placing TNT maliciously in a house, then they should be temp banned from the server.
      TNT is sort of like a gun, it is the fault of the person who shoots the thing, not the item itself.
      Now some of you will go "but... a gun can still go off and kill people!", but it can't in this game. To place TNT and have an accident, you need to do the following:
      - Type in /item 46 1 to get one TNT
      - Need to place it
      - Need to attack it with intent to detonate it
      And even then, one block of TNT won't do THAT much damage (though is irritating if placed properly).
      I agree that the tnt should NOT have been placed in Camaro's house. That was bad, but the solution lay in the next number:
    4. We have a whitelist, so we do not have to worry about people TNT'ing other houses. If they do, then the answer is obvious
    5. If anyone was upset by the minor thing I did [blowing up the surface for ~200x200 blocks, see my post above.
      I did that because Smartzkid said he was removing TNT, so I needed to make sure I could lay the foundations for my castle. If people remove it based on what I did, I'd feel like my artistic measures in the server would be forcefully diminished...


    Lastly a minor point included here would be that the rumor is there's going to be a reset anyways, but this is not enough to make a valid point for my argument.

    Constructive criticism and debating ALWAYS welcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgby714 View Post
    No... Your a short walk from your first building.....
    Define short in terms of time (seconds/minutes/hours...etc), needs to be tangible for readers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstrike View Post
    Define short in terms of time (seconds/minutes/hours...etc), needs to be tangible for readers.
    You not even 5 mins away =/

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    1. It is also useful at blowing up entire buildings in 1 minute, where people spent 6 hours on making. Also useful for making gigantic holes to hell in about 15 minutes.

    2. So what? without TNT we wouldn't even need to disarm anything...

    3. If people are alone on the server, they can place as much TNT inside houses as they want, even set it off if they want, without anyone noticing. This isn't real life. There is no evidence what so ever of who set off the explosion. Please do not compare the game to real life..

    4. I didn't get this one... Why shouldn't we worry about that?

    5. I do not think it is alright. Even though the distance from the main spawn point, if everyone were to do this, the whole world would end up being a ugly wasteland with floating blocks here and there. No good thing.

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    1. I would be fine without tnt. It can be useful though. So far I have seen more harm done with it than good. grief bans?

    2. Using obsidian to get rid of someone else decision should not be necessary in the first place. It might be useful is someone decided to line their house with it though and accidentally set it off..... ...

    3. Isn't there a server log? Yes, this is a game. Not real life. There still is no need to be and act like a jerk. As is similar to real life, sometimes the decision of a few stupid decision people affect everyone else...

    4. ??? property and log management?

    5. On a side note, whose up for building rapture and fallout?
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    Someone burnt down the treehouse......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgby714 View Post
    You not even 5 mins away =/
    Believe it or not through timing it takes 5 minutes to get there

    Though this is quite a far ways away, its approaching almost 1000 tiles distance from the main SRL building. The closest building even to that location is my huge fortress (there is a large gap between them), followed by Camaro's house.
    The only way to reach that point is have a straight line towards it, bee-line right at it (not falling into any holes or traps). With 360 degrees, and the new railway being set up, chances of anyone even coming across is are negligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    1. It is also useful at blowing up entire buildings in 1 minute, where people spent 6 hours on making. Also useful for making gigantic holes to hell in about 15 minutes.
    Anyone who maliciously blows up buildings others made should be outright banned.[/quote]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    2. So what? without TNT we wouldn't even need to disarm anything...
    It is true that this shouldn't happen, though if the worst did happen and someone was a bit of a dick, we can surround in obsidian and detonate safely-- though I agree with the point you have proposed completely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    3. If people are alone on the server, they can place as much TNT inside houses as they want, even set it off if they want, without anyone noticing. This isn't real life. There is no evidence what so ever of who set off the explosion. Please do not compare the game to real life..
    Server logs should show who is on and when. If someone does it during the night and the victim wakes up to it, they should be able to easily pinpoint it.
    If it is done during peak hours, someone will notice unless the house is extremely far out of sight.

    The comparison with real life was an analogy , is there a reason you don't want me to compare it with real life?
    The key part is that if someone did want to blow up a house in game, it's first a thought and then an action that someone has to go forward with despite the failsafes put in place to prevent it from happening. The fact that they have to go ahead with it means they want some kind of pleasure out of destruction. Therefore, if someone wants to destroy someones hard work, they will do it regardless. If lets say someone wanted to destroy your (awesome) link statue. TNT would definitely do the job in a few minutes (I agree), but the person could also jump on top of the statue, and also within a few minutes... whip out a shovel and pickaxe to mow down the structure.
    Therefore, if our worry lay within the speed of how beauty can be destroyed, I implore you to further look at the intent behind it. If as you say that I am wrong and that no one can track people doing malicious things, then we are in a dark situation indeed... as anyone can come along during the night who is on our white list and destroy our hard work-- even without the use of TNT. Likewise compared to the analogy, TNT acts as a time saver. It can take out huge things quickly-- though the destroyer's hands unfortunately are just as bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    4. I didn't get this one... Why shouldn't we worry about that?
    Whitelist means that someone we trust is doing it, and limits it to a small select few of people. From here we can narrow down the list much easier. If it was open to the public, I would be the first in line to request TNT banned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyt3x View Post
    5. I do not think it is alright. Even though the distance from the main spawn point, if everyone were to do this, the whole world would end up being a ugly wasteland with floating blocks here and there. No good thing.
    Why is it not a good thing? I like the view of it
    Despite it being desolate, it's exactly what I want. When the castle is made, I think in my subjective opinion it will be beautiful.
    Also, if the entire world goes around doing what I did, then that means the people prefer the look of a desolate landscape, and their wish fulfilled. I think both my point and your point on number 5 are based upon what we subjectively like.




    TY, please post more, it helps us root out various issues, I do feel as if we are definitely getting somewhere, plus you brought up great valid points . I do appreciate you spending time to rebuttal
    Anyone else who has a stance on the issue, please post! The more is better especially with a decision such as this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymity View Post
    1. I would be fine without tnt. It can be useful though. So far I have seen more harm done with it than good. grief bans?
    I really like a new idea that may have come from this, what if we have TNT on demand but not summonable?

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymity View Post
    2. Using obsidian to get rid of someone else decision should not be necessary in the first place. It might be useful is someone decided to line their house with it though and accidentally set it off..... ...
    I agree that neither of that should happen, luckily there is a way to disarm it if some griefer did that

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymity View Post
    3. Isn't there a server log? Yes, this is a game. Not real life. There still is no need to be and act like a jerk. As is similar to real life, sometimes the decision of a few stupid decision people affect everyone else...
    How was I acting like a jerk? I'm a bit confused, can someone point it out? If I was being blunt somewhere I apologize... sometimes I end up being blunt
    Sorry I didn't answer your response. To answer: Yes sometimes the stupid few decisions of some guy to blow up a house for example ruins the game-- BUT we have the whitelist. If they do it once, they're gone forever.

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymity View Post
    4. ??? property and log management?
    If you meant to answer my question, the answer is ban them from the server Whitelist prevents rogues [sp?], and if someone gets banned from the server then we need not worry about it happening again, because their name is tied with SRL forum name (to void it, theyd need to make a new account...etc, which is too much work IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymity View Post
    5. On a side note, whose up for building rapture and fallout?
    Whats that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgby714 View Post
    Someone burnt down the treehouse......
    WTF!?
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