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    Well, I'm not entirely sure of evolution. My beleif is that evolution does occur, but on a timescale so slow that it couldn't have possibly produced humans in a timespan that short. I mean, come on, 10 billion years (time for life to develop anywhere in known universe) isn't that long. How many genes are there on a DNA molecule, and how many nucletid bases does each one contain? It adds up, but then the key factor: probability. What is the probability that it will get mutated in the lifetime of the organism? Multiply the inverse of that by the number figured before, and you get something far far larger than the age of the universe. So, the timescale is just too big for evolution.

    Even so, evolution is an unproven theory. There are still animals that can't be traced back to their ancestors via genetic inheritance. There are "missing links" in the chain of evolution. The theory is not watertight.

    I have a theory that we were seeded on this planet by intelligent species living outside our universe. This happened by cross-breeding these species into the already existing chain of evolution (probably at the level of the first primitive vertebrae). Say what you want, that is where I stand. I mean, mammals are extremely strange creatures if you look at it from a different standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Sniper View Post
    also why have i not seen any in between phases in evolution....
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    a mutation is not evolution.
    99.9% of mutations are for bad.. fatal.
    all other mutations cause downsyndrom, and diseases... If you want to get into this i am most likly going to beat you on the topic.
    i am going to address those two issues one at a time
    1. in this picture, we can see the change of a 4 toed leg into a one hoofed leg, it is the evolution of the horses hoof


    2. mutation is only a factor in evolution
    another factor is called natural selection, this is 'survival of the fittest'
    consider this example of rabbits

    these is a big warren of rabbits
    occasionally a few get eaten by foxes
    one day, there is a freak of nature of who really small ears, its a mutation
    this rabbit dies young because he cannot hear foxes coming, he never passes on his small-ear gene
    one day, there is another freak of nature, but this time, it causes huge ears,
    this rabbit lives a long time because its always the first to run when it hears foxes coming, it has many children

    the small-eared rabbit never passed on its gene and it died out, there are no small-eared rabbits
    the large-eared rabbit passed it gene on a lot, all its children had large ears too

    very soon, most of the warren had large ears, because they were more likely to live longer, all because of that useful mutation

    one reason evolution is so slow, is that useful mutations like large ears only happen 0.1% of the time, so they are few and far between.
    those are both the issues addressed.

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    You don't seem to understand the concept of science. Science proposes THEORIES not laws. There are so many disprooven theories in science it would take ages to list them all. Consider the fact that people once thought that life consisted out of four body fluids. This theory has long since been disprooved.

    LAWS are something that is permanent. Mathematics are laws, because no matter how hard you try, 1 + 1 = 2 now and a trillion gazillion years from now.

    Science survives because it is a set of theories that can be changed over time, NOT because it is a set of rigid rules. If the latter would be the case, we'd still be using "magic" rituals to try to cure people.

    And right now, the most logic of theories is evolution. Science never aimed to disproove the existence of god; rather the opposite. Quantum physics actually tend to support the existence of a higher being, and I'm not ranting here, I read this on an article of a major news site (I think bbc.co.uk, can't find it anymore else I'd post a link).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakman View Post
    i am going to address those two issues one at a time
    1. in this picture, we can see the change of a 4 toed leg into a one hoofed leg, it is the evolution of the horses hoof

    Wow, I feel really...awkward saying this or pointint it out, but doesn't the last hooves kinda look like, well, um...a male "Shlong" ? hehe, meh bad. I agree wiht you too YakMan.

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    did anyone ever say i was in any beliefs?

    plus thats not what this topics about .. please do not steer in that direction....

    itll cause a war.. no need.
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    yah this topic is kinda getting a bid outta hand and way off of what it was ment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Sniper View Post
    did anyone ever say i was in any beliefs?

    plus thats not what this topics about .. please do not steer in that direction....

    itll cause a war.. no need.
    You started it

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    you prove to me that they are a mutation and not how where were first created as individuals mkay

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    how does that state that i was saying somthing about religion?

    cause if we are all and the same you need to prove that to..

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    I do think this topic needs to be closed now

    i do not need to be the one who "started" a religion fight up in here.
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    i agree it should be closed
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    Hell no!

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    yes im sorry about the changing of topic,
    i dont think it needs to be closed, just moved back onto evolution

    the thing with evolution is that its a little complicated and some people are lead to the wrong direction with it.

    do remember that peoples opinions probably wont be changed by this
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    Ya but i do not want to be the cause.

    The poll can stay open.. but i wish comments to be closed :\
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    Just because we beleive in evolution does not mean were against god. so many of u ask "Does evolution prove there is no god?" - No. Many people, from evolutionary biologists to important religious figures like Pope John Paul II, contend that the time-tested theory of evolution does not refute the presence of God. They acknowledge that evolution is the description of a process that governs the development of life on Earth. Like other scientific theories, including Copernican theory, atomic theory, and the germ theory of disease, evolution deals only with objects, events, and processes in the material world. Science has nothing to say one way or the other about the existence of God or about people's spiritual beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShadow View Post
    Charles Darwin, ftw.

    Yeah, whatever he explained about it. I think it's very true, the natural selection theory (that every organism changes and adapts with their environment). Therefore the first bacterias evolved into bug looking sea creatures, to fish, to big fish, to big fish with flippers, to reptilian water creature. Then land animals. :] Many people probably don't agree, so I'll give an example.

    White people go to africa. They get tan, so their skin (melanin?, a cell or pigment thing inside your skin) gets dark. Slowly over millions of years the white peoples kids would be born (near blackish). People think it's bs but over millions and billions of years things do change.
    um, yeah, small changes and shit like that, but big changes, like different species, like a monkey goes to africa and turns into a man? no?

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    Ever heard of missing link?

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    Just thought I would say something,
    If evolution was the correct theory as people say then after millions of years wouldn't the moon have a lot more dust on it?
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    It has a lot of craters on it.

    BTW, 90% of dust is from human skin and stuff falling off you.

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    :P.. If the humanity on earth is gonna end we will prob. and up on the moon. Or on another planet that has the good atmoshepe and stuff.. And as Boreas said above, the dust aint a problem

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    I think it meant it has to be true how would you explain humans then? appeared out of nowhere?

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    why is that not possible? you havent seen it happening, but it might have...(not saying it did, just saying it is possible)
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    Evolution is the thing.
    My opinion is that god, everything related to that fat bastard is false.
    if there were god, then he made saddam hussein, osama and all their friends.
    He made nuclear weapons he made electric chair he made drugs he made farts he made people fall with bicycles he made bad tv shows he made jagex he made srl hey stop stop stop! "SRL"? someone has to teach god a bit about copyright.

    So, god is fresh, warm, steaming pile of polarbear shit.

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    GOD YOU GUYS ARE SO RETARDED.

    EACH OF OUR ORGANISMS ON EARTH LIVE ON DIFFERENT PLANETS. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE ARE A UNIVERSAL TV SHOW THAT SOME ALIENS ARE FILMING WHERE THE TAKE DIFFERENT ORGANISMS AND PUT IT ON ONE PLANET AND SEE WHAT WE WILL DO. DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING AROUND HERE?!?! JEEZE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rs_Monkey View Post
    GOD YOU GUYS ARE SO RETARDED.

    EACH OF OUR ORGANISMS ON EARTH LIVE ON DIFFERENT PLANETS. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE ARE A UNIVERSAL TV SHOW THAT SOME ALIENS ARE FILMING WHERE THE TAKE DIFFERENT ORGANISMS AND PUT IT ON ONE PLANET AND SEE WHAT WE WILL DO. DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING AROUND HERE?!?! JEEZE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    My opinion is that god, everything related to that fat bastard is false.
    if there were god, then he made...
    Nothing. We made. The bad, the bad the bad the bad. Kind of pessimist way of looking at things, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    Evolution is the thing.
    Right, God doesn't have to come in to play, science can disprove science. Many people died believing that the world was flat. Scientist have never kept an open mind about things because of fear that their beliefs could be false and new ideas create new problems.

    "Advocates of intelligent design point to two developments that in their view undermine Darwinism. The first is the molecular revolution in biology. Beginning in the nineteen-fifties, molecular biologists revealed a staggering and unsuspected degree of complexity within the cells that make up all life. This complexity, I.D.’s defenders argue, lies beyond the abilities of Darwinism to explain. Second, they claim that new mathematical findings cast doubt on the power of natural selection. Selection may play a role in evolution, but it cannot accomplish what biologists suppose it can."
    http://www.newyorker.com/archive/200.../050530fa_fact

    I don't know where you guys get the idea that science can't be disproved, it happens all the time.
    Keep an open mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post

    It's from Southpark.
    yea..

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