how to make gp

[Yago]

I also went on the rsbuddy threads and some people claimed to be hacked.

[Method]

Lol.. love how u ask the owner of rsbuddy himself.. I suggest u check the site that actually has the cracked scripts and see who else got hacked right after using rsbuddy in dev mode.. You act like Im dumb enough to go download a ddos tool or some shit on youtube.. As for what I decompile.. you yourself should know that decompiling something does not hack you.. You seem to just underestimate my intelligence.. thats all.

Who else should I ask, then? The people who are trying to "crack" scripts don't have access to the bot's source code, and they also don't know how the bot works. I see no better person to ask than the bot developer himself.

As for underestimating your intelligence, I don't think I've done anything of the sort. I never suggested that decompiling a piece of software could "hack" you. What my post actually said was that posting a piece of code that you couldn't even decompile correctly is no evidence that the bot is malicious. Point us to the code that sends your account information to the servers, if you have it. I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing it.

Just so you know, the only things I've attempted to decompile thus far was iDungeon (has absolutely nothing to hack u), and Rsbuddy.. Do you seriously think they're just going to IP ban someone from rsbuddy when ppl can use a vpn? Oh I wonder how did this guy got these paid scripts for free.. oh we are so nice that we should only IP ban this guy who is using our paid scripts for free because it makes so much more sense than to teach him and everyone else who uses it a lesson. Umm also lemmie know when u decide to crack these paid scripts (seeing as your on an open source community, you probably would support it).. till then I gtg and probably won't see any replies to this. Try helping tom get some gp instead of trying to prove me wrong when Im trying to make scripts free.

If you break the rules, you should expect to be punished. Making the assertion that anything further than that happens without any evidence is absurd, to say the least. Jagex doesn't take your credit card information and rack up charges if your account is banned for macroing, and RSBuddy doesn't steal your account information if you misuse its network. Both businesses would have too much to lose if that was the case.

I'm also not sure how being a part of this community obligates me to start "cracking" scripts and releasing them for free. Feel free to explain that one.

[uncfan1119]

I'm also not sure how being a part of this community obligates me to start "cracking" scripts and releasing them for free. Feel free to explain that one.

Owned ^

[TomTuff]

Not owned.. I was saying that he would probably support it since the community supports everything open sourced..

[tl;dr] SNIP [/tl;dr]

Please Method just explain why would they just IP ban someone who makes them lose money.. just explain that alone.

The average person has no way around an IP ban. I'm not trying to disagree with you, ggzz, because I honestly have no idea whether powerbot OR rsbuddy are stealing users' accounts.

[Method]

@method
and as for the bot hacking us, there is nothing for rsbuddy to lose.. its quite obvious I cant decompile it fully because its assembly code.. u cant fully reverse code to its original state.. why ask the developer? he will obviously want to tell you otherwise as if he doesn't, everyone would know his bot is logged..

Actually, RSBuddy has quite a bit to lose if it was found to be malicious. Both Jacmob and Arbiter are legally responsible for the bot and content on the site and could easily face legal action if RSBuddy does any of what you say it does.

Furthermore, Java bytecode is relatively easy to decompile -- or at least more so than actual assembly code. Giving us some bytecode and expecting us to "realize" that it's malicious when you haven't done any of the work to show us that it's malicious is unreasonable. You're asserting claim here, so the burden of proof is on you.

here's what you can do and prove it to yourself, Go do what I said in the first post without a VPN on your main account right, then wait a while and see what happens.. dont forget to put the info in the bot. I'd like an explanation from you how one such as myself would get hacked otherwise whereas I wasn't hacked before using dev mode? I'd like you to explain it to the other users aswell who have experienced this. And dont even say rsbot because I already looked over all the code in the bot each and every time before I compile it and use it from the github. Dont say keylogger cuz I have a keyscrambler that works at the kernel level. I use wireshark and fiddler to see outgoing connections and monitor it.

I don't play RuneScape, and I don't have any interest in botting on the game. If I did, I wouldn't want to risk losing access to RSBuddy because I was trying to gain unauthorized access to a script.

As for being hacked, there is a myriad of reasons why your account might have been compromised. I don't think I need to go into any of them. You can rant and rave about having all the protection in the world, but at the end of the day, you're likely the one at fault here.

Of course I deserve to be punished but I'm just saying what the punishment is.. ur the only one denying it and saying otherwise because jacmob said so.. this just reminds me of when ubermouse was boasting about jacmob's security (remote execution) and yet all the scripts got cracked. No matter what, there will always be doubts but you can go through all the classfiles yourself and prove me otherwise cuz ur the only one arguing that it isnt so. I'd love for you to tell everyone else on the site with the scripts that it doesn't log you..

As I mentioned before, the burden of proof is on you. I've asked you to provide some evidence that RSBuddy is at fault in this situation, but all you've done is dance around the point while asking me to engage in the same activities that ended up in your ban from using the service. Making a claim like "my account was compromised right after I was banned from RSBuddy so they hacked me!!" with no other support is useless.

To use an idiom I find rather appropriate for this situation: put up or shut up.

Please Method just explain why would they just IP ban someone who makes them lose money.. just explain that alone.

What is there to explain here? You broke the rules and you were punished for doing so. Why would anything else need to be done? Banning you from using the service is perfectly reasonable and appropriate for misusing it. Just as SRL doesn't misuse the personal details (like passwords, e-mail addresses, IP addresses, real names, etc.) of banned users, there is no reason for the developers of RSBuddy to use your account information maliciously after you were banned. Arguing that there is because you're not familiar with the developers there or because the bot is closed source (or for whatever other reason or reasons you find compelling) is a silly appeal to ignorance.

[LolL]

and as for the bot hacking us, there is nothing for rsbuddy to lose..

RSBuddy is a registered company in the UK. Stealing accounts ("hacking") is illegal and could land Jacmob and other staff up to 10 years in prison.

its quite obvious I cant decompile it fully because its assembly code.. u cant fully reverse code to its original state..

It's bytecode. You can reverse bytecode to it's original state with little to much effort (depending on the obfuscation). Don't say it's assembly code because that's 10x harder to reverse (but still completely possible). But why are we even talking about reversing it? Viewing the bytecode is equivalent to viewing the Java code, albeit a bit trickier.

Please Method just explain why would they just IP ban someone who makes them lose money.. just explain that alone.

They IP ban the person so that they don't lose money. I think you answered your own question?

I would totally be suspicious if after being banned from a bot, my account was compromised. However, the consequences RSBuddy would face if they were to engage in such activities makes me highly doubt it. I'm not saying your wrong entirely; I'm saying with the facts right now, it seems unlikely. But if you've got that feeling, look through the bytecode and send me a PM on anything you find suspicious.

[TomTuff]

*ahem*

I'm botting dungeoneering atm. I've gone from 60 to 66 in a few days, however 65 to 66 was done by hand on a large dungeon (c6 5:5 floor 31). I'm making ~15-18k xp/hr, is that good? Estimated time to 85 at this rate (for someone who can account for the increase in exp rate as dg level increases)?

[Capricorn]

Meh Im not banned from the site... I have gotten around it like I said previously.. A VPN..

So you decide to get around your ban even after doing something that was in their right to ban you?

.. U can't give me a reason why I was hacked only after using dev mode..

And as of now, neither can you.

My security isnt the worlds best but its a hell of a lot better than the average person's.

So it's perfectly possible it wasn't rsbuddy

you act like if Im the only user who has been hacked right after dev mode. Of course theyre legally responsible but only if someone proves it or goes up against them with a suit. In that case they would have to provide proof that its not a true claim.

As far as I know, you are the only person on SRL claiming to have been hacked. If you want anybody on your side you better be damn fucking sure what you are saying is the truth, because stealing personal information is a serious accusation.

Myriad of reason but none has been said. Cool story. When paris hacked all those accounts was he not responsible aswell? and what happened? Nothing.. so bye bye to that legal stuff.. Don't u worry when I do get it cracked again, we'll see who's right and who's wrong and I'll gladly pm you the classes of everything malicious.

We'll see how far you get considering your difficulty decompiling java byte-code.

Only non malicious bot out here is RID and nexus.. powerbot from github and Simba.

Not to say that they do have malicious code, but how can you be sure when you aren't even positive about rsbuddy?

You can check the forums yourself, want a link I'd definitely give u it, if it makes you sleep at night.

I don't know why we should unless there is 100% proof that what you say is true, but than I am sure we wouldn't be having this discussion now would we?

Put up or shut up huh? thats a good way to put it but I never asked for your 2 cents in the first place so I guess the last few words of that would be directed toward you. I am only a messenger thats all. Either you use rsbuddy or you don't, simple as that.

You are on a public forum, you posted on a public thread. Are you somehow trying to say that just because he's not the rsbuddy dev that he can't call bullshit on some accusations? (Not that they are or aren't bullshit).

What's the problem with Method wanting to defend someone who you are saying is guilty without proof? I would want the same done for me. I get the feeling you wouldn't have a problem with Method adding his two cents if you had better formulated your case and had a better story.

Edit:

*ahem*

I'm botting dungeoneering atm. I've gone from 60 to 66 in a few days, however 65 to 66 was done by hand on a large dungeon (c6 5:5 floor 31). I'm making ~15-18k xp/hr, is that good? Estimated time to 85 at this rate (for someone who can account for the increase in exp rate as dg level increases)?

Legit or botting? If it's legit that's awfully slow. I cannot say for botting but in my opinion even if it is bad I would just suck it up because atleast you have a bot for dung (there aren't a lot to choose from so you really got no choice )

[LolL]

*ahem*

I'm botting dungeoneering atm. I've gone from 60 to 66 in a few days, however 65 to 66 was done by hand on a large dungeon (c6 5:5 floor 31). I'm making ~15-18k xp/hr, is that good? Estimated time to 85 at this rate (for someone who can account for the increase in exp rate as dg level increases)?

Are you prestiging properly? Make sure to reset, rush all the floors you can from 1-XX and then reset and start again from floor 1 again. 1-10 you can rush, the rest you can put some effort into. Then, you'll get nice XP because the total XP you get is basically (floorXP + prestigeXP) / 2 -- the average. If you need clarification, just shout.

[TomTuff]

Are you prestiging properly? Make sure to reset, rush all the floors you can from 1-XX and then reset and start again from floor 1 again. 1-10 you can rush, the rest you can put some effort into. Then, you'll get nice XP because the total XP you get is basically (floorXP + prestigeXP) / 2 -- the average. If you need clarification, just shout.

Yeah I know I'm getting 15-18k xp/hr botting. I make 40k+ usually when I do it legit, I just hate finding groups and when I do get/make one the people are idiots.

Just broke 42k tokens!

[Brandon]

if your using idungeon, don't rush any floors.. I'm 90 dung, a couple thousand from 91.. I don't rush any and it lvls really fast. Its like those people that kill blue drags n drop the hide to pick up bones.. if you think of it, your dropping 3k to pick up 5k.. how much did u really gain for spending that extra time? u gained 2k..

Well rushing floors is the same thing.. Every xp counts.. rushing isn't very much faster plus the fact that when u rush floors, each and every time you go through a door with monsters that haven't been killed, u will definitely get hit and most likely get a death from that or the boss; eventually losing xp.. When all monsters are killed, you get a 10% extra bonus.. so yeah.