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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    Yep yep. So, Invalid Gold, your much previous post wouldn't apply to us.
    I believe he was agreeing that they can't sue anyone at srl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublex8 View Post
    I believe he was agreeing that they can't sue anyone at srl?
    They can't sue us because we don't inject anything, and SRL is a place can everyone can have scripts for free ( this is not a business community, like RSbuddy and so on). We only accept donations, that permit us to be online. There's nothing illegal with that. So, they can't sue us.
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    Actually, they could sue us, it would be just as ridiculous as suing other botters though.

    From what I gather, they've put up a lawsuit front to sue individual botters and claiming it hurts their brand and they are losing money from each botter.

    The lawsuit seems ridiculous since that data would be unquantifiable and I don't think they've named anyone yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smurg View Post
    Actually, they could sue us, it would be just as ridiculous as suing other botters though.

    From what I gather, they've put up a lawsuit front to sue individual botters and claiming it hurts their brand and they are losing money from each botter.

    The lawsuit seems ridiculous since that data would be unquantifiable and I don't think they've named anyone yet.
    The information they're gathering only those individuals are based on paid bots. They're apparently getting that info through PayPal. Again, that doesn't have anything to do with us.

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    so in that sense I could easily argue back to them saying I bot less than most people play, I rarely interact with other players and I don't sell/buy and change the market in any way

    pretty easy to get out of their crappy approach, also my $5 a month is > anything I do
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    Quote Originally Posted by onilika View Post
    They can't sue us because we don't inject anything, and SRL is a place can everyone can have scripts for free ( this is not a business community, like RSbuddy and so on). We only accept donations, that permit us to be online. There's nothing illegal with that. So, they can't sue us.
    Yes, I was just stating that Invalid Gold was agreeing with you, not questioning anything. We are all in agreeance. No one is doubting you or anyone else that is saying they can't sue us. We agree with you that Jagex cannot sue us. We concur to the statement that Jagex can't sue us.
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    Its kinda stupid that they are trying to attack the every day botters!

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    I really wonder how they are going to try and take Simba out. Maybe changing colours, but that would be annoying for players? ideas?

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    lol i cannot see how rs would look like if all objects where animating in all colors, i bet it would make alot of legit player leave. also it would not entirely break simba because it could still rely on bmpmasks.

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    Like seriously... they set up an update which killed Epicbot, RsBuddy, and all these, they went from like 200k players to like 40-60k. And still, they are trying to remove color/reflection bots? They earn like thousands a year from players being members, and they complain about some hundred botters that only bots to be good at the game? And tell me, how are they supposed to kill color/reflection bots? Make Runescape old fashion? (no colors, only black/white). No they cant. Can they make everything change colors rapidly? No they cant. Can they make membership free so that f2p players would have fun being members instead of being bored with the game so they wouldnt bot? I guess they could, but dont think they want, and there would still be some botters My point is, they killed all the extreme botters, why kill those few who are less? And sue-botters-my-ass. Like they would spend hours and hours of writing mails to sue every botters? And how do they know we are botters? They have no proof...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wirsbobrsiw View Post
    Like seriously... they set up an update which killed Epicbot, RsBuddy, and all these, they went from like 200k players to like 40-60k. And still, they are trying to remove color/reflection bots? They earn like thousands a year from players being members, and they complain about some hundred botters that only bots to be good at the game? And tell me, how are they supposed to kill color/reflection bots? Make Runescape old fashion? (no colors, only black/white). No they cant. Can they make everything change colors rapidly? No they cant. Can they make membership free so that f2p players would have fun being members instead of being bored with the game so they wouldnt bot? I guess they could, but dont think they want, and there would still be some botters My point is, they killed all the extreme botters, why kill those few who are less? And sue-botters-my-ass. Like they would spend hours and hours of writing mails to sue every botters? And how do they know we are botters? They have no proof...
    Reflection bots have been offline for a month now. Colour bots have been in existence since the dawn of Runescape Classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wirsbobrsiw View Post
    My point is, they killed all the extreme botters, why kill those few who are less?
    Because it's against the rules of the game...?

    And they do have proof. Jagex doesn't ban anyone unless they are 110% sure they botted. Coordinates and colors clicked, randoms etc, they use a lot of different things to try and find out if you're cheating.

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    In a few months, there is no Runescape for anyone...
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    Is there a thread or something anywhere where i can follow the case Fagex vs Ibot ?

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    This was a very interesting read, and if you guys have time I suggest you look over this. It points out some of the mistakes Jagex has been making regarding gaining personal info on people through their paypal purchases to Impulse software.

    http://www.matthewtaylor.co.nz/2011/...as-and-paypal/

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    I've been comparing this to how Paypal reluctantly surrendered the information on 70,000 buyers to Jagex for such purposes. Paypal has such instances to where they must give up this limited information if needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by PayPal
    We may share your personal information with:
    • we are compelled to do so by a subpoena, court order or similar legal procedure
    They also said something in that area about receiving prior notice when this applies. So for those of you who have gotten an email of this sorts from Jagex, did you also get a notice email from PayPal that they would be sharing your personal information?
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    as I figured, jagex blindly attacks and doesn't think anything through

    they can't go around suing players without breaking rules themselves

    that picture is funny, you got some code, itunes and what appears to be a database list all on 1 screen?

    I wonder what the guy is pointing out when having itunes running, seems unprofessional



    one thing is for sure, all of those users whose privacy was invaded can easily sue jagex now, especially if they went in as a team
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    They run a check for your PayPal address by your membership payment details. If they find a PayPal address, they have Eric check for the PayPal in their database of bot purchases across all of the reseller websites.

    E: Oh. This has been discovered already. My bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    The information they're gathering only those individuals are based on paid bots. They're apparently getting that info through PayPal. Again, that doesn't have anything to do with us.
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    I don't think I have any 1 email that is registered to two things that involve money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    This was a very interesting read, and if you guys have time I suggest you look over this. It points out some of the mistakes Jagex has been making regarding gaining personal info on people through their paypal purchases to Impulse software.

    http://www.matthewtaylor.co.nz/2011/...as-and-paypal/
    Great find Flight. They definitely stepped out of their legal territory and its probably going to cost them in the near future. Jagex seems to have a handful of great coders led by idiotic executives. They've done some good things to the game such as great graphic improvements and some well-done new quests but they still don't seem to 'get it'. We have a game thats been around for 10 years and they still can't find a way to make skills such as firemaking and fletching useful/worthwhile meanwhile they spend countless wasted hours designing cosmetic gear that looks nice but no one wears.

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    If they're getting info from paypal then it wouldn't even effect me. I buy pins from other people because I don't have a paypal. And if they give you a last chance every time, what's the risk of botting if you have a "get out of jail free card". And in my opinion botting is helping jagex. I've bought maybe 20 memberships I never would have gotten. They couldn't say they we were hurting their business. If you violate a ToS it gives them the right to deny you service, but it isn't illegal. Or am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cahker View Post
    If they're getting info from paypal then it wouldn't even effect me. I buy pins from other people because I don't have a paypal. And if they give you a last chance every time, what's the risk of botting if you have a "get out of jail free card". And in my opinion botting is helping jagex. I've bought maybe 20 memberships I never would have gotten. They couldn't say they we were hurting their business. If you violate a ToS it gives them the right to deny you service, but it isn't illegal. Or am I wrong?
    unless your country says it's illegal to violate ToS's I'm pretty sure you're spot on correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by cahker View Post
    If they're getting info from paypal then it wouldn't even effect me. I buy pins from other people because I don't have a paypal. And if they give you a last chance every time, what's the risk of botting if you have a "get out of jail free card". And in my opinion botting is helping jagex. I've bought maybe 20 memberships I never would have gotten. They couldn't say they we were hurting their business. If you violate a ToS it gives them the right to deny you service, but it isn't illegal. Or am I wrong?
    Violating a ToS has no legal ramifications as long as the means by which it was done was not illegal.

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