Still kind of unclear but Charmz said something about
1) his paypal being in negative balance because of chargebacks from other people
2) he himself got scammed out of x$of amazon gift cards which he's trying to get back So he's not paying I guess because 1) he can't due to neg paypal/doesn't have they money & he got scammed himself in the middle of all of this. 2. SRL Junior Member Join Date Aug 2011 Location Spooner Street Posts 309 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Quoted 0 Post(s) Originally Posted by YoHoJo Time=Money. It doesn't matter how you got the items/money real or virtual. You can work for it, auto it, get it as a gift/prize. In the end the GP he lost has monitory value (maybe not to you) but what he lost was worth$700 and it's gone now D:
True, maybe I just don't value virtual goods that I don't "work" for as other people do. I mean if I see my bank account has only 30€ left, I don't think "well I still got 10b gp in runescape, I'm all good." But then again I've never considered doing RWT, which I might actually now think about seeing that I have stuff laying in my bank that other people are willing to pay for.

EDIT: Also, why doesn't Charmz just give the rsgp back to the guy?
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3. Why doesn't he just give the RS gp back? If he cared, at all, he'd give it back.

4. Oh yeah you're right.... No clue... I don't even know all of the details clearly.
But he did basically say it's not worth $700 to him to be part of thr community. But yeah wtf he should give GP back... Whatever big mistake because SRL is so amazing in so many ways. 5. SRL Member Join Date Jun 2006 Posts 1,492 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Quoted 0 Post(s) It sounds like Charmz himself got scammed as well? So perhaps he's keeping the RSGP in order to compensate for the money he lost himself? 6. Charmz was in IRC but the way he explained his story, I piece it together like this: 1) weequ sold him GP, and charmz paid paypal money for it. 2) charmz went full retard, and used that GP he bought to buy$1k worth of (fake) amazon gift cards off sythe.
3) of course, these amazon cards didn't work.
4) ???? (I have no idea what happened here)
5) Paypal was shut down, and Paypal charged back all of his most recent payments (I'd assume this is BS based on charmz' attitude, and he did chargeback manually)

His story falls apart at at #4 - there's nothing that explains why his Paypal was closed, and why Paypal charged back ALL of his most recent payments. He said something about kingarabian charging back a payment, but that wouldn't explain why all of his most recent ones were.

In either case, he refuses to affirm that the guilt is upon him for being an idiot (terrible reasoning and decision skills), and he refuses to pay back even part of the money, such as working overtime at a job - "weequ has like 50B. he will be fine". It's a shame what money does.

7. Originally Posted by Wizzup?
As far as I understood, he didn't want to pay it off. SRL is not worth 700$for him. Something along the lines of that. In a way I suppose I understand it, but this'll only happen if you get into the black market in general. It's called black for reason. He told me he couldn't pay it. If he doesn't want to pay it off then its a different deal. I mean this is all of Paypal's bullshit. Anyway, maybe he and antti can cut a deal, no? Figure it all out? The same day he charged back 700$ from antti my paypal charged him back 40 dollars WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE. So I talked to them for a full week and they stopped it.

Can Charmz show prove that a charge back has been made and everything is frozen?
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8. Not much of a deal to cut nga just needs to hand ova da chedda nomsain? I'm sure once(if) he ever pays antti back he can get unbanned.

9. Originally Posted by YoHoJo
Not much of a deal to cut nga just needs to hand ova da chedda nomsain? I'm sure once(if) he ever pays antti back he can get unbanned.
ya cuz homiegangbanger maybz we can lit thangz flow up in ddis biz man. we tlkin bawt a thick booty 700 dolla bitch mayb willin to hustle and brin it down niggerson. Sheeeeetttt....

10. He paid the gift cards with PayPal. (He used to buy with rsgp)
Gift card was bought with a stolen cc or something.
Some chargebacks happened.
I asked him how he planned to pay back.
He told me he could not waste any more money by paying back if he really got scammed scammed.
The money has been returned to him by PayPal.
He told me the gp was "long gone". (I have no-idea what happened to this)
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Thats just pathetic, hope he ends up paying it back.

12. Originally Posted by Harry
Charmz was in IRC but the way he explained his story, I piece it together like this:
1) weequ sold him GP, and charmz paid paypal money for it.
2) charmz went full retard, and used that GP he bought to buy $1k worth of (fake) amazon gift cards off sythe. 3) of course, these amazon cards didn't work. 4) ???? (I have no idea what happened here) 5) Paypal was shut down, and Paypal charged back all of his most recent payments (I'd assume this is BS based on charmz' attitude, and he did chargeback manually) His story falls apart at at #4 - there's nothing that explains why his Paypal was closed, and why Paypal charged back ALL of his most recent payments. He said something about kingarabian charging back a payment, but that wouldn't explain why all of his most recent ones were. In either case, he refuses to affirm that the guilt is upon him for being an idiot (terrible reasoning and decision skills), and he refuses to pay back even part of the money, such as working overtime at a job - "weequ has like 50B. he will be fine". It's a shame what money does. He said paypal locked on him due to suspicion of too many 'gift' payments, or something along those lines. 13. Originally Posted by weequ He paid the gift cards with PayPal. (He used to buy with rsgp) Gift card was bought with a stolen cc or something. Some chargebacks happened. I asked him how he planned to pay back. He told me he could not waste any more money by paying back if he really got scammed scammed. The money has been returned to him by PayPal. He told me the gp was "long gone". (I have no-idea what happened to this) 03:47:37 < charmz> that I bought$1000 amazon giftcards on sythe for the 1.75M
03:47:44 < charmz> that i bought off anti
(last night's convo a little bit before I made my post)

I guess he likes to change his story a lot...

14. Originally Posted by Harry
03:47:37 < charmz> that I bought \$1000 amazon giftcards on sythe for the 1.75M
03:47:44 < charmz> that i bought off anti
(last night's convo a little bit before I made my post)

I guess he likes to change his story a lot...
(0:22:58) Mike: this guy didint just scam
(0:23:04) Mike: he commited a federal crime
(0:38:04) Mike: i bought the amazon with paypal
(0:38:07) Mike: anyway

15. What's his reasoning why he couldn't return your GP then? He told us on IRC that he bought the cards with GP, and that's why he couldn't return your GP.

16. Originally Posted by Harry
What's his reasoning why he couldn't return your GP then? He told us on IRC that he bought the cards with GP, and that's why he couldn't return your GP.
Because the gp was "long gone".
Maybe he sold gp and bought gift card with the money.

17. Originally Posted by weequ
Because the gp was "long gone".
Maybe he sold gp and bought gift card with the money.
Or maybe he is straight up lying and this is all just a cover-up?

18. Originally Posted by weequ
Because the gp was "long gone".
Originally Posted by Harry
He told us on IRC that he bought the cards with GP, and that's why he couldn't return your GP.
If he bought cards, then yea of course the money (gp) is gone. I see no inconsistencies there.

19. Confirming my identity to Charmz. I'm currently talking to him on discord. He wanted to make it right and is going to pay me back after all these years.

20. @_ChArMz paid me back the whole amount in BTC. Thanks _ChArMz!

Can he be unbanned now?
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21. Originally Posted by weequ
@_ChArMz paid me back the whole amount in BTC. Thanks _ChArMz!

Can he be unbanned now?
wow after all this time :O

22. Oooff reading that story for the first time and hanging in there through all the repetitive and confusing dialogue I was really happy to see it turn out right!

23. good story

24. Originally Posted by weequ
@_ChArMz paid me back the whole amount in BTC. Thanks _ChArMz!

Can he be unbanned now?
Wow, respect to the man. What did he say to you? Or did you approach him?