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    Quote Originally Posted by footballjds View Post
    the awesome thing about "orders" from cops is you can completely ignore them.
    You cannot aid your friend and you cannot lie to the cops, but you can call BS when they tell you to help them.
    Lol no. Harboring a fugitive or similar is highly illegal in most places. He is wanted and looked for, it would probably be illegal to not turn over information about him.

    Warrior is absolutely correct, you don't want to "fuck the police" especially with such a serious case as murder. If he did or didn't do it, his life is basically already ruined. The only way he's going to be able to fix his life is being proved not guilty in court. It's a major thing he is being pressed with, he needs to face it. It will not just disappear, and helping him avoid it for a bit will only result in trouble for you as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    The only way he's going to be able to fix his life is being proved not guilty in court.
    Casey Anthony did it. Anyone can do it.

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    Turn him in. Doesn't matter if you know him for that long... let the Law deal with him , and if he's innocent than talk to him about it, if he is guilty ... well you did something right for your missing friend and his family..

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    You don't have an option, you have to turn him in if he texts/calls/talks to you/you see him. If you don't and you are found to be helping/assisting/hiding him, you will also be found guilty of Harboring a Fugitive. If you turn your friend in, he will be given a fair trial. Should he plead guilty, well then you know he was infact involved in the homicide. Should he plead not guilty, well then you know you did the right choice and won't be involved in the whole scene anymore. Either way you'll win - if he's guilty, then he spends his time over in jail; if not, you can talk to him again.

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    Well No matter how bad the situation, hiding a fugitive is as bad as being one...Yea you could probably hide him but the problem is that what if, What if you hide him and the police find him in ur house. He goes to jail for homicide and u got to jail for being an accomplice. Eventually he's gonna have to face the police, just depends on how. Keeping in mind this is not GTA where u can kill someone and hide in a corner until the stars go down.
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    I feel sorry for you man. Anyway, here's the thing. What IF he did commit murder? Do you want friends that are murderers? If he's not guilty, then he'll most likely walk free. In the end it is his mistake and you can support him, but I don't think that support should stop you from working with the police to discover the truth. I'm not sure what I would so in such a situation, but I'm leaning towards working with the police. After all - what if your sister got murdered by someone, how would you feel is someone else was hiding the murderer? (All of this is obviously purely hypothetical, but it's worth thinking about)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish View Post
    Last night, the police came over to my place, they were 7. They were looking for one of my better friends, one I've known since I was 4. They looked in all the rooms and explained that my mate is searched for homicide.
    First of all, did you tell them they can come in your home? Idk how they do it in France, but they have to have a very good reason to come into an American's home without a warrant or permission. The police would never get permission from me, whether I am guilty of anything or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish View Post

    I was given orders to ask for details like location and try to meet up with him or something...
    They can't order you to do that. You aren't an officer.

    If he contacts you, ask him whatever you like, but don't learn anything you wouldn't mind the police knowing. The first thing you say when he answers is, "Don't tell me anything the police can't know." That will absolve you of guilt. Don't go out of your way to help the police, but don't fuck over your friend.

    The police might have said they have proof, but are you sure? Police lie. I don't care what you say, they do. Unless you have seen the proof, believe nothing, remain silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    I feel sorry for you man. Anyway, here's the thing. What IF he did commit murder? Do you want friends that are murderers? If he's not guilty, then he'll most likely walk free. In the end it is his mistake and you can support him, but I don't think that support should stop you from working with the police to discover the truth. I'm not sure what I would so in such a situation, but I'm leaning towards working with the police. After all - what if your sister got murdered by someone, how would you feel is someone else was hiding the murderer? (All of this is obviously purely hypothetical, but it's worth thinking about)
    Knowing him.. He would not have done something like this without a fucking good reason. He's not the violent type of guy and definitely wouldn't think of murdering someone..

    Quote Originally Posted by Grihmm View Post
    First of all, did you tell them they can come in your home? Idk how they do it in France, but they have to have a very good reason to come into an American's home without a warrant or permission. The police would never get permission from me, whether I am guilty of anything or not.


    They can't order you to do that. You aren't an officer.

    If he contacts you, ask him whatever you like, but don't learn anything you wouldn't mind the police knowing. The first thing you say when he answers is, "Don't tell me anything the police can't know." That will absolve you of guilt. Don't go out of your way to help the police, but don't fuck over your friend.

    The police might have said they have proof, but are you sure? Police lie. I don't care what you say, they do. Unless you have seen the proof, believe nothing, remain silent.
    Of course I let them in, why wouldn't I ?

    If I say Don't tell me anything the police can't know, that's about the same as assisting him isn't it ?

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    You don't know where he is now. That is good: you don't lie to the cops and you aren't betraying him.
    As said before: the best thing really is not to know anything about his whereabouts, that way there is no guilt on you. If he really is searched for homicide, your place would be one of the worst to hide as you know him too well. They already searched there. If he got half a brain and is serious about escaping the police, he should know.
    Though the best thing would be to turn himself in or go far away (overseas). Else he'd be seriously doomed.
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    Look, telling him to keep away from you is easy to justify (even if the cops have told you otherwise). Say you said it because you were worried about your personal safety, there's nothing they can do about that.

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    Fuck that the police cant do anything, ignore the police, if ure friend needs help, help him, but do it logically, not like a retard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterlyr View Post
    Fuck that the police cant do anything, ignore the police, if ure friend needs help, help him, but do it logically, not like a retard...
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    I'd say check with a lawyer in your area about it. In the mean time, I'd just avoid your friend at all costs and not speak with him if he calls.

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    This is a difficult ocassion.Generally,if your friend isnt guilty,he dont have to be hiding.Why should he have to hide if he isnt guilty?Just tell him,if you can, to go to the police and tell them that he isnt guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish View Post
    Of course I let them in, why wouldn't I ?

    If I say Don't tell me anything the police can't know, that's about the same as assisting him isn't it ?
    Well, it basically depends on whether or not you trust the police. I have never met a good police officer, so I would never let any in my home without a warrant.

    And yeah, it kindof is, but it isn't anything that will get you in trouble. It is a good compromise between helping your friend, and complying with the law. I agree with the idea of checking with a lawyer what you should do. I am not familiar with French law, although I know your Constitution is similar to the American one.

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    if he is your best friend, i dont think he'll be putting you into this situation, not in any way. or at least that what i will do if i get into some situation like this one.

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    Seems like a bunch of snitches to me tbh.
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    Just cooperate. Either he didn't do it, and it'd likely be proven in court, or he did, and you just did your community a favor. Nobody will look down on you for turning someone in for murder - but harboring a fugitive? Yeah, it's safe to say most will think less of you. Some will think more of you - but are those really the people who you want associated with yourself? I won't provide you any legal council, but morally/emotionally, I have to say that cooperating is probably the best route, regardless of if it's the most enjoyable.

    Whatever choices you make, I wish you the best of luck. No regrets.

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    You think that if the community finds out that you turned in a friend of 12 years they wouldn't think less of you.
    You couldn't go take out the trash without 5 people giving you a smirk/look of disgust.
    And I know I wouldn't ever be friends with some snitch.

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    The best you could do to help your friend is to just say "Can't help you bro" and hangup if he calls. And there is no such thing as a "good reason" to commit homicide.

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    In my eyes he's one of the most wonderful persons I've met. Not a murderer and I won't treat him as one. As far as I'm concerned, the police only have suppositions without any proof. My friend would never do something like this unless its absolutely, but when I say absolutely I mean it, necessary.

    @cause : a man walked into your home, beat up and killed your parents, closest persons to you in front of you. Would you not kill him ? I would for sure.

    Sorry if that's a bit extreme but basically that's what I mean, sometimes, your emotional side covers the rational side and exposes yourself to your feelings, making you do things you would never have considered in another situation.

    I've made up my mind, he's my best friend, I will not cooperate.

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    BAM. Right choice bro - but do it smartly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cause View Post
    The best you could do to help your friend is to just say "Can't help you bro" and hangup if he calls. And there is no such thing as a "good reason" to commit homicide.
    lol'd.

    There is plenty of time I would say homicide becomes VERY necessary. For example, the plain that crashed in PA. Flight 93. Just think if they didn't attack the hijackers?

    What about shootings in schools where the perpetrator is attacked and killed my a civilian. Can you really tell me that is not a justifiable "good reason"?

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    BAM. Right choose bro - but do it smartly.
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    in all honest if u are in france and if he has done id advise him to join the french foreign legion, after 7 years in service u can leave with a new identity and no previous crimes can be put agaisnt you, if u dont know what the french foreign legion are google it.

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    act like you dont know anything when the police ask around but tell your friend that its not your problem and you dont want to get into shit

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