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    Default The "Optimus" Challenge

    "We remain committed to our ongoing work to ensure that the successes of Bot Nuke Day are never undone by staying a few steps ahead in the arms race with the remaining bot developers and gold farmers. We’re already well underway with our next generation of anti-botting software called Optimus, which is going to be released shortly, and we’re also currently developing ways to remove the remaining screen-scraper bots from the game. We’ll also be continuing to fight gold-farmers on every front.

    The team has been dedicated to eliminating the last of the performance issues experienced by some users since Bot Nuke Day, and we will shortly be releasing an update intended to resolve these problems. We’re also planning further improvements to game accessibility and performance in future updates this year.

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    It look like Jagex is still on the war path, reflection bot has all but exterminated. Now all their focus will be on the Colors. Any thoughts? Comments from the community?

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    It IS technically possible to remove color bots, however it isn't likely that it will stay as so.

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    Bring it on !



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    They haven't removed reflection/injection bots from the game....if you don't believe me then go to green dragons/sorceress garden/etc and see all the bots there. The bots are just private.

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    TBH they'd leave us alone if people DON'T SELL GOLD!
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    They can stop us but it will take them more work than they are willing to spend on colour bots

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    If we were to go to python, c or c++. We'd beable to support opencv and they'd be f-ed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Main View Post
    If we were to go to python, c or c++. We'd beable to support opencv and they'd be f-ed.
    I have yet to see opencv do anything useful on runescape.



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    If we go on experience from the cluster-flutter thingy it will be at least 6 months until the release it lol. Not to mention it will most likely make the game be unplayable and look horrible, Oh and it wont end up working.

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    clusterflutter didnt work? reflections beend ruined has it not

    also from my reading of that text i came to understand that optimus is not aimed at taking on "screen-scraping" bots like simba, but some other. what kind i dont know.

    We’re already well underway with our next generation of anti-botting software called Optimus, which is going to be released shortly, and we’re also currently developing ways to remove the remaining screen-scraper bots from the game. We’ll also be continuing to fight gold-farmers on every front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathan lad View Post
    clusterflutter didnt work? reflections beend ruined has it not

    also from my reading of that text i came to understand that optimus is not aimed at taking on "screen-scraping" bots like simba, but some other. what kind i dont know.

    We’re already well underway with our next generation of anti-botting software called Optimus, which is going to be released shortly, and we’re also currently developing ways to remove the remaining screen-scraper bots from the game. We’ll also be continuing to fight gold-farmers on every front.
    ClusterFlutterer or whatever u wanna call it, did NOT work.. reflection/injection bots still exist.. ppl keep them private that's all.. why? because it's illegal and u get in shit if found to be using one.. They still "Exist" though..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormonman View Post
    They haven't removed reflection/injection bots from the game....if you don't believe me then go to green dragons/sorceress garden/etc and see all the bots there. The bots are just private.
    I have many green dragon bots running on SIMBA. Mine, at least, are color. Although I suppose it's possible for them to be reflection

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    How would they ban colour bots? By changing the colours on a regular basis? Wouldnt that take jagex lots of time and be easy for the botters to respond with their own changes?

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    if they are private what proof do u ahve that there reflection? or is this just hearsay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathan lad View Post
    if they are private what proof do u ahve that there reflection? or is this just hearsay?
    Some dude was selling his private bot on sythe for 600$ then someone bought it, then he changed the price to 900$ due to high "demand" lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathan lad View Post
    if they are private what proof do u ahve that there reflection? or is this just hearsay?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZypNf1xI0PA

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    Aren't those 'Packet bots', Flight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RISK View Post
    Aren't those 'Packet bots', Flight?
    I haven't heard of packet bots since... Hell, the #300 RS days :O. Anyways, as far as I know that's been done away with for ages, I'm willing to bet the bots we see nowa days are reflection/injection. Just my two cents though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZypNf1xI0PA

    Take note of how far away they are from the dragonhides on the ground yet still are able to walk to them and pick them up.
    Note the date of the video :P Before the nuke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel View Post
    Note the date of the video :P Before the nuke.
    Oh was it? I think I have the wrong video then. Someone on Sythe showed a video of, I believe, just this month basically doing the same thing. Give me a second and I'll try to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    Oh was it? I think I have the wrong video then. Someone on Sythe showed a video of, I believe, just this month basically doing the same thing. Give me a second and I'll try to find it.
    I saw the video as well. When I first saw all the bots back as sorceress garden I thought it was a member script here or something. Guess I was wrong haha
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    Post clustterflutterer I have seen people demo proof of concept OpenGL interceptors that can grab polygonal models from the pipeline. It is possible these have been developed further into fully fledged bots in private, and the new Optimus update is an attempt to break them.

    The GL bots would have no where near the potential of BCEL and reflection because all they have to work with is essentially a "polygonal model soup", just a random collection of models with ids(not related to game id) and position/orientation information, but given enough development they could be much more capable than a color bot.
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    Jacmob told me about this, he also said that when its a new update goes threw it sends a ping back to the Servers => 'Primed'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZypNf1xI0PA

    Take note of how far away they are from the dragonhides on the ground yet still are able to walk to them and pick them up.
    This can be done with color, just takes dev commands to set camera far higher so they're able to see everything

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