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    Default haha.. glad i dont mine ess for cash

    news update about autoers being banned.. i laughed cuz i was just autoing when my player switched and said RS has been updated.. i read the news.. laughed even harder because i was autoing like they posted it here is the news announcement(sp?) if you are lazy..

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    20 April 2006 - Rune Essence adjustment Today we have made an adjustment to rune essence mining due to players breaking rule 7 and rule 12, using macros to mine the rune essence and then selling it. As you are probably aware we have various systems in place to detect people breaking rule 7 and ban them. These systems work very effectively at detecting people breaking this rule, and make macroing a really bad way to try and train a high level character.
    The problem we are now solving is not a problem with our macro detection systems which are still working well, but rather a problem with banning being an ineffective punishment against abusers who only use very low level accounts, and who have no intention of ever playing the game properly.
    Over the last few weeks we have banned literally hundreds of accounts a day for macroing at the rune essence mine. However the bans were ineffective as the abusers could just create more low level accounts that they didn't care about to mine more. We also track trades so we can ban the recipiant of the illegally obtained items, but the abusers in this case were swapping the runes for gp, and then selling the gp for real world money on auction sites. Of course the person buying the gp for real world money gets banned, because we track the money they received in an unbalanced trade to a macro account, but the seller doesn't care that their customers get banned shortly after, as they have their real world money by then.
    The fundamental problem is that rune essence was one of the few areas of the game which could be used to generate a reasonable amount of RuneScape money on a 'throwaway' low level free account. Normally to earn large amounts of money quickly you need to level up an account first, and then of course you care if it gets banned so our normal deterrant is effective.
    We have therefore split rune essence to have 2 grades. Normal essence can only be used to make the six basic runes, whereas pure essence can be used to make any rune. You can mine both types of essence at the same place as before. The kind of essence you receive is automatically decided when you mine the rock. You will always get pure essence only if your mining is over 30 and you are on a members' world, otherwise you will get normal essence.
    As a one-off event whilst we introduce this, existing essence in your bank and inventory will have been automatically converted to pure essence if you are a member or have other members-only items in your bank.
    Since free players can only craft the six basic runes anyway, the normal essence is just as good for its intended purpose of letting free players do low level rune crafting. However it is not so useful for selling to members who want to make law and nature runes (who we believe buy the vast majority of rune essence in Runescape) which should reduce its price significantly and make it a much less appealing proposition for real world traders.
    The only people who should be significantly affected by this are players mining very large amounts of essence on free accounts purely to sell to members. There are better way of making money on high level free accounts anyway, so this change should only really affect players trying to making large amounts of money on a low level free account - which is of course the exact idea.
    We would also like to yet again remind our players NOT to break rule 12 and be tempted to buy RuneScape gold for real world money. Nearly all the gold being offered for sale in this way was generated by cheating on 'throwaway' accounts. If you buy it not only are you encouraging further cheating, but you run the very real risk of being banned yourself as the money you receive is dirty money and will be tracked. Again we have banned countless players for breaking rule 12 and fuelling this problem, and will continue to do so.
    We hope most players will agree we shouldn't let rule breakers spoil this game, and we are determined to not let them do so. As well as banning, where necessary we will also make minimal changes to the game to make rule breaking unviable.
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    lol yep so was i (useing our fight cave one) =p lol
    our macro detection systems which are still working well
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveTonto@Gmail.com
    my ass lol
    gross!!.. but true xD
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    meany i thought we were TEAM! but hey.......
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    aww man...I sold 12k ess the other day...I could have sold pure ess for like.....2 times more...DAMN


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    aww lol there goes the essminer....
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    I just bought 77k pure ess.



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    <3 Jagex.

    Now Aryan users are going to cry

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    hasnt affected me a bit.. i merchant feathers.. so yeah good profit for me and they really cant do much about it besides ban me but.. cheaters always prevail.. plus i only auto like one night out of every 5 nights.. ess sucks
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    i dont auto for cash i do it for fun =)

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    Ha. They are literally destorying Runescape with all these updates

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    hmm how much is Pure Ess going for now lol I have 100k pure ess on my main
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dankness
    hmm how much is Pure Ess going for now lol I have 100k pure ess on my main
    Lol yeah, 77k here.



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    5k here =( can you guys give me some lol, i'd like to craft some nats formaself =(

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    Fuck. This dosen't just affect aryan users.

    JayGex just fucked themselves over either way.

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    This hurts runescape's already crap econemy even more. :*( I just sold 10kk laws for 300 ea, now their price is gonna skyrocket to atleast 500 ea.

    Anyways, it doesnt matter what you think, autoers kept the econemy alive by keeping prices somewhat reachable. If no one ever auted, prices for basic things would be 3x higher then they are.
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    let's mine 1mil of pure ess and sell for 10 ea xD

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    They can auto Iron or something 100 each still hé :d

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    JayGex stabbed themselves in the foot and lit there house on fire. Now there trying to get out. Will they get out in time? Stay tuned for episode 2!

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    yep with all these new radoms and sgit there adding to stop us the game is getting to over crouded with shit now
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    I always wonder what updates like this will really do to the economy.

    If you think about it, there are only a couple of ways for money to enter the economy. One is to sell something to a shop or the general store. Another is to use high/low alch. The third is to get gold drops from mobs (item drops don't ADD money to the game, they just help money move around). And a minor amount from quests, etc.

    Autoers adding millions of rune essence to the game enable alching to take place. I think alching is by far the largest source of money in the game, so this could really crush the economy. After all, if natures cost 1k each, the number of items you can alch and make money on drops significantly. Instead of making money on an 11k rune medium, you'd be losing money. So now the cost of a rune med has to drop for people to want to buy it. Instead of buying steel plates for 900 each and breaking even, you'd have to buy for 200 each. This just kills the demand for items like this. It also makes grinding out smithing levels much harder, since you'll be losing MUCH more money per xp gained if you now high alch the stuff you make.

    At the same time, autoers won't have money to buy large quantities of ores, logs, whatever, so the prices of those will probably drop. So, if you're a non-autoer player doing anything BUT mining essence, this will be bad for you. The only people that this would actually benefit are people mining essence legit. It hurts everyone else, even if you've never mined essence before.

    If the cost of essence goes up significantly, this is really going to suck for the game as a whole.

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    Yowza! Personally, I think that they are taking this way too far. Beyond the limits! However, we must respect Jackex for they are the ones who made this MMORPG for us to enjoy autoing on. If it weren't for RS, I wouldn't have had any intentions for learning Pascal/SCAR. I can see the Aryan users being pissed off on these updates, though. Oh well, they should've seen it coming. Bravo Jackex! Well played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Klink
    Yowza! Personally, I think that they are taking this way too far. Beyond the limits! However, we must respect Jackex for they are the ones who made this MMORPG for us to enjoy autoing on. If it weren't for RS, I wouldn't have had any intentions for learning Pascal/SCAR. I can see the Aryan users being pissed off on these updates, though. Oh well, they should've seen it coming. Bravo Jackex! Well played.
    Sometimes I wonder who's side your on ...

    I for one am taking the train my pure while you wait for economy to stablize route..

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    Go Jaxeg! I feel that they need to step back and look at the bigger picture of the game, and not just focus on cheaters. But I think this is a step in the right direction if they want to salvage their game. Next they have to refine there random and update their JDK and I will write them a letter of appreciation.

    note* I am in no way anti-cheat, although I myself do not cheat. I simple think that cheating has gotten out of hand, there need to be some responsiblity in the actions of "cheaters".

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    you know what... im on jackexs side on this one
    .... i hate bots and i hate the bot makers... they ruin everything for the scar autoers rofl without them... we wouldnt have this problem would we...
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