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    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    It actually isn't pro.. I can almost guarantee that most C# programmers do not know how to free objects or deal with memory as efficiently as a C or C++ programmer. I have a class full of C# programmers as I have to do it as well.. Intellisense helps them lots. It does depend on what your doing but on the other hand this is not the case for most programmers of C#.. they choose to use it because apparently it's easier for them to understand as they don't have to deal with a lot of shit they get from the other languages below it.
    Wrong. On the opposite, you are able to use memory efficiently with high level languages. For example, C++ is notorious to have leaks as they're so easily created. However, proper use RAII prevents this, but still.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    You probably say this because you program in C# and those languages. It does make sense.. go check hack forums and look at the CyberGate Rat or the DarkComet rat.. they use that method of injection.. Not WinAPI. Injecting into explorer allows on Windows 7 and Vista the privilege of not requiring admin rights to do certain activities.. Every time a Rat starts, it doesn't have to be ran as System or Admin.. it can run normally and still stay stealthy.. Of course they can always suppress UAC but it requires so much more work.
    I don't program with C#, never have. I'm hard to the core C++ guy. Opening CD tray with winapi doesn't require admin rights. Also, injecting code to other process is far from stealthy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    Secondly C# has to go through virtualization first! before it can execute shit all.. That right there downgrades the language and decreases speed.
    As I said, it really depends what you are doing. Some handy software is easy and fast to develop with C sharp. If you absolutely need speed, use C++.
    By the way, did you know it's actually easier to inject managed code to different processes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    C# is way easier to decompile and crack apps written in it.. even after the symbols have been stripped. Dynamic objects for everything with the New Operator is ridiculous.. u learn nothing from that. Managed Vs. Native.. sure you can google that right?
    It's even easier to debug unmanaged code. They're not necessarily dynamic, even if the syntax requires so. In the end, it's up to compiler / interpreter what to do.
    Of course you learn, even when doing C sharp. All the programming languages has the same idea and even syntax.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    Only advantage C# has is that it's easier to use and that it doesn't recompile every header and stuff every single time.. thus compile times are faster.. but I can care less about compile time if my application is faster.
    I'm sure you've heard of pre-compiled headers, pch, for C++.
    Finally, tell me, what kind of application you are writing which needs all the speed you can rip off from your machine?

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    Games.. I program games, Bots, etc.. Those require speed.. I can assure you that it's much harder to inject into explorer than to just edit a registry key and have your app start that way.. so your definitely wrong there. Secondly.. Decompiling does not mean debugging so your mixing up your terms.. I said C# aka managed code is much easier to decompile (even when the symbols are stripped).. no where does that say debug.

    I can almost guarantee that most C# programmers do not know how to free objects or deal with memory as efficiently as a C or C++ programmer.
    You are misreading badly.. no one said that the high level languages do not deal with memory.. I was stating this entire time that the languages do the memory management for you.. it is a fact that most C# developers would not deal with memory as efficiently as a developer of a native application written in C or C++ due to the dependencies on GC.. In my classes, the guys that do not know C or C++ have no idea about memory management or pointers or what I mean by dynamic allocation with New. so your wrong there. C# does the work for you.. the programmer does nothing.

    C# teaches you logic.. not really anything else as far as I'm concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    Games.. I program games, Bots, etc.. Those require speed.. I can assure you that it's much harder to inject into explorer than to just edit a registry key and have your app start that way.. so your definitely wrong there.
    No, with managed API you don't have WOW64 restrictions for instance and the injection is more straightforward.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    Secondly.. Decompiling does not mean debugging so your mixing up your terms.. I said C# aka managed code is much easier to decompile (even when the symbols are stripped).. no where does that say debug.
    You are right, I misread there.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    You are misreading badly.. no one said that the high level languages do not deal with memory.. I was stating this entire time that the languages do the memory management for you.. it is a fact that most C# developers would not deal with memory as efficiently as a developer of a native application written in C or C++ due to the dependencies on GC.. In my classes, the guys that do not know C or C++ have no idea about memory management or pointers or what I mean by dynamic allocation with New. so your wrong there. C# does the work for you.. the programmer does nothing.
    Why the programmer need to do something regarding memory management? The idea of higher-level programming language is that it's efficient and resistant to programmer's mistakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    C# teaches you logic.. not really anything else as far as I'm concerned.
    Nah, you are over-exaggerating a bit there. C# is full featured programming language; what you need to learn from other languages that C# doesn't provide, excluding hand-made memory management?

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    No, with managed API you don't have WOW64 restrictions for instance and the injection is more straightforward.
    Well I think this argument is going to go on forever at this rate.. Lets get this clear quick.. WOW64 is platform dependent.. only needed for 64 bit computers.. Btw.. for both 64 and 32 bit computers.. the registry for the Run Key is in the same location.. CurrentVersion/Run.. so that has nothing to do with it.. the RegOpenKeyEx function will be much faster than injecting anything.. that's for sure.

    A programmer should always know how to manage memory.. what good is it to write a program and not know how your memory is managed or works.. getting in the habbit of having things done for you is pretty bad.. You never remember code, your rely on drag and drop.. there's many things.. One example is the stack overflow when doing recursive functions..

    Teacher was teaching them recursive functions in C#.. they did not know how the memory works and assumed the garbage collection would clean up after them for that.. bam allocated too much memory by having the function call itself so many times.. With the lack of knowledge of memory management things like this WILL always happen.

    High level languages are there to help provide an easier way for new programmers and existing programmers.. not to take away from the old languages which is what microsoft did.. it's the same reason they push C# and F# over C & C++.. they removed the intellisense for C++ when it worked perfectly fine in 08.. This way more ppl lean on the ease of using C#'s api's and learn nothing about the internals..

    Program to learn and do things and make life easier.. not to just get shit done. As for besides memory managemet.. one would be portability.. external libraries.. most programmers of .Net do not know how to use external libraries.. .Net as a whole provides every single thing for you.. Since you program in C++ you know a button is a Window.. try asking .Net programmers what type of control a button is.. Ask them simple questions.. they cannot answer because they do not know. In the case of portability.. I can guarantee a lot of them do not even consider it.. as in the case of the virus exam we had today.
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    Come on guys, take this elsewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Come on guys, take this elsewhere...
    LOL kk I'm done.. can inbox me any arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    A programmer should always know how to manage memory.. what good is it to write a program and not know how your memory is managed or works.. getting in the habbit of having things done for you is pretty bad.. You never remember code, your rely on drag and drop.. there's many things..
    Not everyone who programs in .Net knows nothing about how memory is managed. It's up to the programmer to fully understand how something works and why. I'm always conscious about how memory is allocated in the programs/code that I write, and always optimize it to the best that I can. I've always turned off intellisense, it was annoying. I've never used drag and drop, I always type out the controls I want and the placement for them. Anyone who says they're a programmer and uses drag and drop is lazy, plain and simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    Program to learn and do things and make life easier.. not to just get shit done.
    I absolutely agree with you on this. I love the art of programming, the knowledge gained when having that "eureka!" moment. I always write programs to do things that makes my job a hell of a lot easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    most programmers of .Net do not know how to use external libraries.. .Net as a whole provides every single thing for you.. Since you program in C++ you know a button is a Window.. try asking .Net programmers what type of control a button is.. Ask them simple questions.. they cannot answer because they do not know. In the case of portability.. I can guarantee a lot of them do not even consider it.. as in the case of the virus exam we had today.
    I would say that the people who don't take the time to understand the language they're programming in are lazy and shouldn't be considered a programmer. At the very least go back to school for it. Although, I never went to school for programming, just self taught and fascinated with how everything ties together. I know I don't know everything, but each day is a learning experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jethr0x View Post
    As stated before N3ss3, I gave powerbot a 1month warning before... no one believed me :P.
    Well shit, speaking of the devil Do you already have access to PB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Come on guys, take this elsewhere...
    I read through all 5 pages of that and forgot what this thread was about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    Well shit, speaking of the devil Do you already have access to PB?
    It's not me.
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    What a bunch of nerds :P (I'm jesting but you can't here inflection on here haha)

    You guys should go outside more often. (Its night right now fyi so I have nothing better to do than read this);

    But anyways hacking pb is impressive. You should go join the New World Order. They could use people like you. JK!

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    I just read my post and I thought what an idiot!
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    Deja Vu,

    If I own a gold farming 'company', a shady illegal company that sells stolen products.

    1. create a "Free" popular Bot site, accumulate users passwords and gold farming accounts.
    2. I will have a puppet name London whom live in France as my paper emperor.
    3. I then purposely design and release an exploit via whispers to an Socially naive kid hacker who can't refuse the bait for online fame. (let's call him Spirit*)
    4. Wait for the public announcement.
    5. Watch it happen and use this opportunity for my planned mass hacking to occur at the same time.
    6. When Most of the accounts are hacked, let Spirit, my pastie, take all the "credit"
    7. Laughing all the way to the bank. Perfect crime.
    8. Repeat 3-8*

    *the next Spirit could be created out on thin air by me.

    This is how a Pro would scam.
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    Aah, I remember this song... And no surprise about EpicBot and RareBot.

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    Oh btw last time when powerbot was hacked, afaik gh0st was given access...

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    ummmmmm did you know, that THIS WAS FAKE and POWERBOT is the BEST bot in the world, it's practicaly flawless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    see for your self gh0st.me

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    Are you serious?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaamady View Post
    ummmmmm did you know, that THIS WAS FAKE and POWERBOT is the BEST bot in the world, it's practicaly flawless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    imo simba is the safest way to go, and villavu is a far greater community than you will find anywhere else.

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    For me it seems that EpicBot is okey. I bought VIP some weeks ago (biggest FAIL ever...) and I never got hacked or anything like that. They know my Password, Bank Pin and others.

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    Does this explain why the rarebot website has been down for like 2 days now?
    Could'a had a V8

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    im sure i said this would happen..... wheres my cookies? please. give me them now. i WARNED so many people, but they ignored me cos of my post count again. LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neros View Post
    yeah. pics or gtfo mate. its a virus, I KNOW 2 OF THE DEVS WORKING ON IT YOU MORON.

    Gh0st, and more recently came to light paris is working on it, no doubt a stolen update from timer.

    there's no trace of alpha, gamma or delta as programmers. so they are covering up something. im sorry but uhh fuck everyone who think lying. you'll understand after your acc gets hacked lol Simba Or Suck It Bitch.

    http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1085097

    bro. it's these 3 again work it out.

    phase 1) take a powerbot source.

    Phase 2)update it.

    Phase 3) lie to the public and release while powerbot "can't" be updated... but somehow a group of "script kiddies" manage to update an old source that powerbot themself are working on?? (uhh yeah fishy?)

    Phase 4) opensource java applet turned .exe binded with keylogger starts to spread the world of rs botting communities.

    Phase 5) hack everyone like they did last year (did u forget this?)

    Phase 6) get a kid to go around lying to everyone saying a developer fucked off on holiday (with stolen rsgpz turned into $$$ no doubt)

    Phase 7) Erase all traces of rarebot and release the same client without the keylogger at powerbot within a month

    now your thinking.... uhh why would they do that?

    well uhhh why do they goldfarm anyway?

    FOR MONEY.

    trust me. i KNOW this is what's going doing. in a month. refer to this. and i would like a big thank you.

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    i dont think ill ever go back to any other bots now lol ive only used reflection and simba and hearing whats happening to the other bots im not even going to try my luck with anything else ill make do with simba XD

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    Fake
    And
    Gay
    everyone can make website with the false information..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zamserv View Post
    Fake
    And
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    everyone can make website with the false information..
    lol it's Gh0st's Private owned domain dumb-ass. he releases all news there...

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    Lol saw this coming, gh0st is pretty cool on hacking.rs. I used to be a member of that community back in my darker days.




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