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    Quote Originally Posted by davis_junior View Post
    It's working for me?
    Same I was sure this was it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoHoJo View Post
    This was announced by Jagex months ago.
    Only a couple sentences were said about it.

    Since then tons of nobodies have been SPECULATING about it, but the truth is no one knows a thing about it except Jagex themselves, so anything you hear is just made up!

    Also, Jagex (although not very clearly) said that Optimus is aimed at the remaining color/injection bots NOT aimed at color bots.

    It's common belief that in no way can color bots be stopped (just slowed down) because they work/play in the exact same way humans do.



    Key word being ALSO, making be believe Optimus is one thing, and they are ALSO TRYING to stop color ones .
    Exactly!

    Altho I personally do believe that it's possible (not even difficult) to slow down/break screen-scraping bot (and game-code-reading bots) in such a matter that you can't bot without babysitting.
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    i dont mind babysiting

    Besides a well coded color-bot can beat ANY human player anywhere. Because a decent computer can do much more calculations per second than human would and for that it can make much quicker decisions. In theory it is possible, to code an ultimate PK or fight kiln bot with so many failsafes, that it would never fail.

    Unfortunatelly no selfrespected scripter will write 50k line monstercode and publish it for leeching.

    Those are our babyes. Those are not for sharing

    Back to the topic: As an idea, colorbot is ment to "see" what user "sees" and "input" as user would enter data. If your going to mess with that... Well theres only one man who could achive that and still make the game playable ->

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    Quote Originally Posted by prostaker View Post
    i dont mind babysiting

    Besides a well coded color-bot can beat ANY human player anywhere. Because a decent computer can do much more calculations per second than human would and for that it can make much quicker decisions. In theory it is possible, to code an ultimate PK or fight kiln bot with so many failsafes, that it would never fail.

    Unfortunatelly no selfrespected scripter will write 50k line monstercode and publish it for leeching.

    Those are our babyes. Those are not for sharing

    Back to the topic: As an idea, colorbot is ment to "see" what user "sees" and "input" as user would enter data. If your going to mess with that... Well theres only one man who could achive that and still make the game playable ->

    Regards,

    While I agree that color bots are very capable, computers are still not quite as powerful as the human brain. You only actually use about 10% of your brain at any given time, which is because each part has a different function. If your eyes are closed, your vision center will have little to do. Computers have not yet caught up to the power a brain holds, although it is expected that computers will reach this point by 2020.

    The feeling that computers are more powerful than humans, comes from the fact that little of your brain functions through conscious control. You aren't looking at angles and gradients trying to recognize 3D objects all the time. Its done behind the scenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m34tcode View Post
    While I agree that color bots are very capable, computers are still not quite as powerful as the human brain. You only actually use about 10% of your brain at any given time, which is because each part has a different function. If your eyes are closed, your vision center will have little to do. Computers have not yet caught up to the power a brain holds, although it is expected that computers will reach this point by 2020.

    The feeling that computers are more powerful than humans, comes from the fact that little of your brain functions through conscious control. You aren't looking at angles and gradients trying to recognize 3D objects all the time. Its done behind the scenes.
    the 10% part is just a myth bro :P

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    meh im not scared, jagex can give it there all if ya ask me

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    JAGEX ALREADY STATED THAT OPTIMUS IS NOT AIMED AT ALL AT COLOUR BOTS IN THE Q&A. Discussion closed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaraxlan View Post
    the bot nuke just hit at 2:00 Central/Mountain time. the SMART feature is currently not working. Stand by while devs fix the problem
    Still working for me too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by m34tcode View Post
    While I agree that color bots are very capable, computers are still not quite as powerful as the human brain. You only actually use about 10% of your brain at any given time, which is because each part has a different function. If your eyes are closed, your vision center will have little to do. Computers have not yet caught up to the power a brain holds, although it is expected that computers will reach this point by 2020.

    The feeling that computers are more powerful than humans, comes from the fact that little of your brain functions through conscious control. You aren't looking at angles and gradients trying to recognize 3D objects all the time. Its done behind the scenes.
    God, you are talking so hard out of your ass.

    The "only using 10% of your brain" stuff is total crap. It's not actually true, but rather mumbojumbo people like you pass around.

    That little example of yours is also inaccurate. If I close my eyes, my eyes will just relay the picture of the back of my eyelids to my brain. The "vision center" (visual cortex) doesn't stop working.

    And uhhh, no. Computers won't reach the "power" (what does that even mean?) of the human brain by 2020. You're thinking of artificial intelligence, which isn't happening anytime soon.

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    On the whole "computer reaching capability of a human brain" thing...

    Computers have far surpassed exactly half of the human brain: the left half. A good enough computer can out compute (fancy that) any living human being. When it comes to calculations and sheer processing power, the computer will always beat out a human. Computers can handle insane equations that would make our eyes cross in fractions of a second, and can perform tasks like matching with near-perfect accuracy indefinitely.

    Humans, however, have the distinct advantage in the other half: the right half. Creativity is what sets us apart here, as computers are literally incapable of synthesizing new data completely on their own. Anything generated by a computer is done procedurally, according to something already programmed into them; even 'random' number generators follow a pre-programmed procedure, believe it or not. As of now, pure inspiration and creation is something computers are incapable of, giving humans the edge here.

    So when you say "computers are better" or "the human brain is stonger," you need to say with respect to what.
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    Again the angles and stuff are done behind the conscious in the brain. However if you are talking of using a computer program to play a computer game, the computer definitely has more knowledge of itself and could out perform a human doing the same task. That is if its programmed correctly. If only we could look at the jagex code and see exactly what will happen next in a pk fight under certain conditions
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    just let this thread die, there is like 10000 of its kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulferx View Post
    God, you are talking so hard out of your ass.

    The "only using 10% of your brain" stuff is total crap. It's not actually true, but rather mumbojumbo people like you pass around.

    That little example of yours is also inaccurate. If I close my eyes, my eyes will just relay the picture of the back of my eyelids to my brain. The "vision center" (visual cortex) doesn't stop working.

    And uhhh, no. Computers won't reach the "power" (what does that even mean?) of the human brain by 2020. You're thinking of artificial intelligence, which isn't happening anytime soon.
    1. I'm pretty sure m34tcode ment processing capacity as he said power.

    2. The 10% thing is acually a pretty common saying (whether it's true or false). Why flame so wildly? Give your opinion instead?

    3. m34tcode wasn't assuming visual cortex or whatever stopped working once eyes are closed.
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    As I also mentioned in another post, they are for sure still working on Optimus. Only recently I saw they added GetFocus{} to the code, basically to see what window is getting the focus. If NULL is returned that means another windows besides RS has the focus. When this is the case normally no skilling activity should take place. If there is XP gain for 5 minutes, while GetFocus returns NULL all the time, that means you are botting, and thus get banned.
    And this could harm the colorbots, except if you have like a dedicated pc to bot from which keeps the focus on the RS window all the time.

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    If you think jagex's statement on color bots being "easy" to get rid of...
    Check out
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopEaJglzWE


    Also, again. Its proven they can't stop us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtli View Post
    On the whole "computer reaching capability of a human brain" thing...

    Computers have far surpassed exactly half of the human brain: the left half. A good enough computer can out compute (fancy that) any living human being. When it comes to calculations and sheer processing power, the computer will always beat out a human. Computers can handle insane equations that would make our eyes cross in fractions of a second, and can perform tasks like matching with near-perfect accuracy indefinitely.

    Humans, however, have the distinct advantage in the other half: the right half. Creativity is what sets us apart here, as computers are literally incapable of synthesizing new data completely on their own. Anything generated by a computer is done procedurally, according to something already programmed into them; even 'random' number generators follow a pre-programmed procedure, believe it or not. As of now, pure inspiration and creation is something computers are incapable of, giving humans the edge here.

    So when you say "computers are better" or "the human brain is stonger," you need to say with respect to what.
    Quite the opposite. Read this. A small citate:

    As to processor speed, let’s assume a very conservative average firing rate for a neuron of 200 times per second. If the signal is passed to 12,500 synapses, then 22 billion neurons are capable of performing 55 petaflops (a petaflop = one quadrillion calculations) per second.

    The world’s fastest supercomputer, a monster from Japan unveiled by Fujitsu at a conference this past June, has a configuration of 864 racks, comprising a total of 88,128 interconnected CPUs. It tested out at 8 petaflops (which only five months later was upped to 10.51 petaflops). Our brains are nearly five times faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superuser View Post
    Quite the opposite. Read this. A small citate:
    I found this pretty interesting too:
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ters-vs-brains

    But it states 2.2 petaflops for the human brain (1/4th of the supercomputer) ... all sorces seem to state diffirently actually :/

    However, lol @ the 20 watts vs. 9.9 million watts =D
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    Well. who writes the scripts? A human right?...

    Anyways. They shouldn't affect us at all, so no need to worry
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterBB View Post
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    Ummm, all Optimus v1 did was stop injection bots for 2 days, Fagex can't touch us.
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    They could try to class action law suite all the simba users, but that would be kind of shady since simba can be used for more than just rs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dude1994 View Post
    They could try to class action law suite all the simba users, but that would be kind of shady since simba can be used for more than just rs
    "In law, a class action, a class suit, or a representative action is a form of lawsuit in which a large group of people collectively bring a claim to court and/or in which a class of defendants is being sued."

    It wouldn't be a class action because the prosecution would just be Jagex, the company, not a group of people.

    Unless anyone here knows the intricate details of the nexus case and what actually they made a deal for, then we're in the dark regarding lawsuits. So I don't know if random conjecture would get us anywhere.
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    simba isn't illegal in anyway.
    Many people have used it for other recreational even academic purposes.
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    Is SRL using a "modified" client/server/emulater to play the game? - No ( If using SMART then yes  )
    Is SRL "Claiming" To own items/money or anything else? - No
    They mention civil wrong doing/criminal offence but then don't provide evidence to there claims
    where it states that breaching there T&C's is a criminal offence.

    They do not mention anything about macroing/botting in there T&C's.

    If you read both T&C's it states that any wrong doing by "You" it should be "You" who suffers the consequences not any one else ( Which is common sense ) If you do something wrong why should someone else suffer?

    If breaching there T&C's is a criminal offence then it should be gold farmers being sued not bot makers.

    Don't use SMART and you're not breaching there T&C's

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    Comparing Terms and Conditions vs. Federal/State Law is pretty LOL.

    T&C means about zilch in terms of prosecuting a user.
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