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    Oxygen. why do we need him. what did he do. It sounds like you have NO IDEA about what is going on dude. You are listening to your parents, and from that poll up there, the united states is hopeless. Its a matter of time before all goes to shit =[
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    Can't believe all the people who support him... He redistributes the wealth... what the hell is the purpose in that other then to help the lazy people who don't want to get out of bed unless they want to do drugs or other garbage...

    ANYONE but Obama a stick would be a better president!

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    Ron paul is the one who is actually aiming to better the united states. All other candidates have been bought out by big companies =\. And yet people are stupid and vote right into their hands. I lose confidence in United States Citizens every day...
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    Americans vote for Ron Paul. Obama has been an utter failure and will not get any better from now on, he ALWAYS crumbles to republicans who bash him contantly, Mr. "Compromise"
    This is how it goes
    Obama: I want 50%
    Republican: No, 100%
    Obama: Okay 99.9%

    Sadly Ron Paul gets little to no media coverage and all the american people see is mitt romney.

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    I'm really suspicious of the Illinois primary. That was Ron Paul's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by m34tcode View Post
    the united states is hopeless. Its a matter of time before all goes to shit =[
    That probably will never happen...I don't see anything backing this statement up or anything, if so please feel free to elaborate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P1nky View Post
    That probably will never happen...I don't see anything backing this statement up or anything, if so please feel free to elaborate ?
    Our debt? Economy? Keep getting involved in pointless wars?
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    Well, try this vid ;]

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/video-of...-released.html

    Also, obama is trying to gain dictorial powers. He has issued a new tax. This tax is a punishment for all non islams. it is issued, so that the islams will 'tolerate' you.

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...stion-2518005/

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    P1nky after Losing plenty of rights the people still on these forums still want to vote for Obama. I'm really afraid of what he will do if he gets re-elected because he doesn't have to worry about public opinion. :< I've always thought that Villavu had the most sensible people.

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    No one has responded to my break down your link, why is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    BraK, I love you man, but your sites are all conservative.
    That has to do with the problem America is in how? Conservative or liberal doesn't matter when your opinion has no more meaning. Never mind that's right Democrat vs Republican the only to sides that matter in politics these days even though they are both the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post

    From your first link (http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/04/pr...-violations/):
    1. The individual mandate
    Won't be into affect until 2014, and people won't be fined until 2016. There is no enforcement of this provision, if you don't buy insurance and don't pay the fines, then nothing will happen to you. If paying for insurance is greater than 8% of your monthly income, then you're exempt.
    So because it won't in effect until 2014. Do we wait for the hammer to hit us or catch it. You decide I don't particularly like getting hit by things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    2. Medicaid coercion
    This isn't being forced on anyone, you either partake in it or not. If you choose not to, then that's the states choice. States are claiming that it's unconstitutional, but it's not, as declared by the Eleventh Circuit. If this is struck down, then this opens a can of worms. It would call into question dozens of other federal programs—not just in health programs, but also education, transportation, environmental protection, civil rights, and, indeed, national security—that provide funds to the states conditional on the states meeting certain requirements.
    If your Talking National security such as the TSA then by all means Be gone with it. If you mean National Security as in all the Government Contractors Making 4-8 times my Salary to do less work than me for the same job then yes please do away with it. If you mean all the money going into information Technology for the sole purpose of documenting everything we do on the internet then by all means do away with it. I want less federal government involvement and more state involvement as was written in the Constitution. If you don't like how your state would run things then leave the state. It's easier then leaving the country. Why is the federal government in Transportation in the first place? The transportation they need to be into is deportation. Environmental protection are the states not able to protect themselves? Are Civil rights even civil rights anymore with the massive mob mentality going around in America they only exist if they are enforced and you can't enforce anything on a mob.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    3. The Independent Payment Advisory Board
    I'm fine with this to be honest, it's just a beefed up MedPAC (Medicare Payment Advisory Commission). MedPAC has recommended cuts to Congress that would cut "hundres of billions of dollars" to Medicare and guess what, Congress has simply ignored them. People in Congress are not informed enough to reform health care. This gives power to the people who are actually knowledgable in health care policy.
    So why are we sinking further into debt then? I mean the government Drilling a whole so big in the dollar that if you lay it on the ground and look through you can see china on the other side.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    4. The Chrysler bailout
    Bush bailed out Chrysler when they needed it, giving them $15 billion dollars in aid. That Chrysler has been renamed to "Old Carco". The new Chrysler did repay in full the loans it was given, six years early. In fact, the $6.6 billion payment provided an annual rate of return on the funds lent to Chrysler Group of almost 20 percent, which is a pretty attractive return. Old Carco is responsible for paying that back, not the new Chrysler.
    I hate bail outs and anything to due with them. They willingly put the nation into debt. Willingly put others into debt. I dislike Bush and Obama both for these but they aren't even in my top ten list.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    5. Dodd-Frank
    I honestly don't know too much about this, but the description given on the site seems innacurate. I will do some research.
    Same on this one as you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    6. The deep-water drilling ban
    This was issued so that there was time to implement new safety requirements for drilling. This was/is needed. The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico was just one example of why. Oil companies were unregulated thanks to Bush, and that needed to change. It would of only impacted 33 deepwater drilling sites, which is less than 1% of the production platforms for oil and natural gas. Why is that such a bad thing? Also, the "the judge was so shocked by the administration’s conduct that he found the government in civil contempt of court." quote is completely false.
    I can agree with you there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    7. Political-speech disclosure for federal contractors
    Oh, so you like U.S. corporations that are controlled by foreign governments influencing election outcomes? That's very American of you. This bill makes it so that us, the American people, control the elections, not huge corporations throughing out millions of dollars. This is NOT an attack on political and protected speech.
    Not it make it to where no one can use and of the money from let's say a personally own business to advocate in anyway that they feel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    8. Taxing political contributions
    Wow, the description for this is nothing but a bunch of bs. This isn't an attack on political speech like they claim, it's to stop nonprofit groups from dumping millions of dollars into campaigns. These nonprofit groups aren't even supposed to engage in political activity, and that's the law. Who's in the wrong here?
    If the donations come from a non profit group then they need to fine said group heavily for Breaking that law.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    9. Graphic tobacco warnings
    I have heard about this, but haven't really followed it. I will do some research.
    I'd rather they show the dead bodies from Drunk driving on the side of every bottle of liqueur. Then We might actually see a decrease in the death toll each year. You try Drinking a beer with little susie's Brains Splatter all over a car window. I'm sure that will help as much as the Warnings on cigarettes. Note: I'm a Smoker and Ex-drinker. I haven't really drank alcohol in 5 years or so.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    Bush knew were Osama was too, why not attack him for not doing anything for it? Things don't happen overnight.

    Also, Bush put us in the Iraq war, when we shouldn't have even been there in the first place. I blame Bush for all of our American soldiers deaths in that war, he caused them to die. He just wanted to "follow his dads footsteps" and go after Saddam, even though there was no need to. The other reason he decided to invade Iraq was to control the oil.

    Oh, and let's not forget that he went to war without Congress' approval.
    So because bush was a Republican Establishment Liberal then we should turn the blind eye to what the Democrat Establishment Liberal Is doing is that were that one was going. "Well this party did it wrong so ours can too."

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    I'm disappointed in Obama for acting too much like a Conservative.
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    disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
    Which part of him fits into this? Which part of any of the republicans fit into this as well. I'm not a Republican and Also not a democrat but I believe in limited Federal Government as stated in the constitution.

    lib·er·al
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    Does seem to fit this one though.

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    favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
    Doesn't fit this though. So he is a liberal but isn't at the same time, but he definitely isn't a conservative.

    You still need to Read up on NDAA, the Trespassing act, and the February 5th "State of emergency" These are my biggest things. Kyle "IF" I get told we are to start arresting US citizens. I'm coming to for a visit and I'm only a few hours away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    That has to do with the problem America is in how? Conservative or liberal doesn't matter when your opinion has no more meaning. Never mind that's right Democrat vs Republican the only to sides that matter in politics these days even though they are both the same.
    Conservatives are notorious for making up useless slander and bullshit. Neither party is exempt from this, and the mud slinging needs to end for both of them. However, it seems much more severe on the Conservative side.

    I'm an Independent, I don't go toward a certain party because of my lifestyle or the things they say. I go by facts.


    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    So because it won't in effect until 2014. Do we wait for the hammer to hit us or catch it. You decide I don't particularly like getting hit by things.
    The point is, is that we're already paying for this. This just changes the way it's paid, and spreads it out so people who just can't afford healthcare can. The bottom 20% of the population of America make up 80% of the healthcare costs. We make them healthy, and the costs drop drastically.

    I actually have a fantastic plan for this, and makes it very equal and fair among everyone, no matter what class type you're in. Just have to go over a few things, and it would be ready to be presented to someone who could do something with it.


    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    If your Talking National security such as the TSA then by all means Be gone with it. If you mean National Security as in all the Government Contractors Making 4-8 times my Salary to do less work than me for the same job then yes please do away with it. If you mean all the money going into information Technology for the sole purpose of documenting everything we do on the internet then by all means do away with it. I want less federal government involvement and more state involvement as was written in the Constitution. If you don't like how your state would run things then leave the state. It's easier then leaving the country. Why is the federal government in Transportation in the first place? The transportation they need to be into is deportation. Environmental protection are the states not able to protect themselves? Are Civil rights even civil rights anymore with the massive mob mentality going around in America they only exist if they are enforced and you can't enforce anything on a mob.
    Anything that is federal funded could be called into question if this fails. National security includes anything that is funded by the feds. Public transportation is paid for by the state, which in turns gets money from the feds. States have to meet requirements if they want the money for the program, and this clause is just that. It's a requirement to be enrolled in the program, not an enforcement.

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    So why are we sinking further into debt then? I mean the government Drilling a whole so big in the dollar that if you lay it on the ground and look through you can see china on the other side.
    Because Congress is f'k'd up. Plain and simple. Politics is so corrupt and in for itself that it ruins everything. It's sickening, and really pisses me off.


    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    I hate bail outs and anything to due with them. They willingly put the nation into debt. Willingly put others into debt. I dislike Bush and Obama both for these but they aren't even in my top ten list.
    Oh trust me, I hate bailouts too. However, if Chrysler hadn't of been bailed out, the American car industry would of been dead. I think the investment corporations should of been killed off, they got themselves into their own mess and brought down America with them. Why should they be allowed to continue their ways?

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    Same on this one as you.
    Yeah, the research that I did returned nothing relevant. So I honestly have no clue.

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    I can agree with you there.
    Yay!

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    Not it make it to where no one can use and of the money from let's say a personally own business to advocate in anyway that they feel.
    This only applies to a company that's controlled from outside of America. Any American based, controlled, and ran company is free to donate how they wish. However, huge corporations that give millions of dollars in campaigns need to be stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    If the donations come from a non profit group then they need to fine said group heavily for Breaking that law.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    I'd rather they show the dead bodies from Drunk driving on the side of every bottle of liqueur. Then We might actually see a decrease in the death toll each year. You try Drinking a beer with little susie's Brains Splatter all over a car window. I'm sure that will help as much as the Warnings on cigarettes. Note: I'm a Smoker and Ex-drinker. I haven't really drank alcohol in 5 years or so.
    I wouldn't mind the warnings to be honest, because I'm responsible when it comes to that. Sure, I"ll drink at dinner when out with friends, but only two or three beers at most. If I want to get drunk, I do it at my apartment, and stay there till the next day.

    People are stupid, and if it takes graphic warnings to get the point across, then do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    So because bush was a Republican Establishment Liberal then we should turn the blind eye to what the Democrat Establishment Liberal Is doing is that were that one was going. "Well this party did it wrong so ours can too."
    Him being a Republican has nothing to do with the war he cause. I would be pissed at them and hold them responsible for no matter who was in office.

    The point is, is that we shouldn't have even invaded Iraq. Don't you agree? Billions have been wasted on this war, countless lives have been taken, families torn apart, life ruining injuries, etc. I heard a statement awhile ago, that it's costing us $500 Million a day to be in this war.

    No party is exempt from anything, they're all corrupt. They all have their pros and cons. It's up to the people who represent the parties to set the image for them. Frankly, neither party has done a good job.



    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    Which part of him fits into this? Which part of any of the republicans fit into this as well. I'm not a Republican and Also not a democrat but I believe in limited Federal Government as stated in the constitution.



    Does seem to fit this one though.



    Doesn't fit this though. So he is a liberal but isn't at the same time, but he definitely isn't a conservative.
    The actions he has done, the horrible crumbling, and compromises.


    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    You still need to Read up on NDAA, the Trespassing act, and the February 5th "State of emergency" These are my biggest things.
    Will do! Thanks for the information.

    Quote Originally Posted by BraK View Post
    Kyle "IF" I get told we are to start arresting US citizens. I'm coming to for a visit and I'm only a few hours away.
    Nooooo! That's not cool man!

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    D: WTF man, I don't answer numbers I don't recognize! Should of posted on my FB that you were calling :/
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    Good article for everyone to read. It's a bit long winded but non the less a must read for everyone that really wants to be informed.

    http://www.infowars.com/the-man-who-...-be-president/


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    Triple Post BraK

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    OT: I'm british, so I don't really care but I've always thought Obama was doing a great job :s

    But meh, I'm not American so who am I to judge

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    Obama will win and nothing we can do about it, 4 more years of "change'. /facepalm
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    Easy bro I removed the racist statement keep it clean here please.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingarabian View Post
    I'm really suspicious of the Illinois primary. That was Ron Paul's...
    They reported only 70 votes in my county/parish here in LA. My parish has 20,000+ Military on it and your telling me only 70 voted for Ron Paul! I'm calling bull on that. The Military fully supports Ron Paul over any other candidate.

    The problem is many people are voting for mitt Romney because he has the appearance that he is popular. Not that that is the right way to vote. My Aunt told my She wanted to vote for Ron Paul but didn't think he was going to Win so she was going to vote for Romney instead. My response to her is that exactly the reason that Romney can win is because people aren't doing what's right but doing what is popular.

    http://www.infowars.com/5-reasons-wh...for-president/

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    http://www.infowars.com/holding-the-...able-on-libya/

    http://www.infowars.com/my-plan-for-...e-oval-office/

    http://www.infowars.com/owe-the-irs-...oing-anywhere/

    The next SOPA
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    http://www.infowars.com/help-bring-w...ma-to-justice/

    http://www.infowars.com/coup-detat-p...ss-ceremonial/

    More links for the Lolz
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    More links to go through, yay! Haha. Will read through them.

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    You put me on hold you noob I could still hear you. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined View Post
    I'm an Independent, I don't go toward a certain party because of my lifestyle or the things they say. I go by facts.
    Yay for facts! Boo for what they say ='[

    Grabbign a link to abamas mention of Dhimmitude in the new healthcare bill. Look up that word while i grab the link. Youll see that america is on the brink of losing. If this is not removed, we will be an owned country. We didnt fight for our freedom, and we lost it :<
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    Omg so many links! It will take me awhile to go through them all haha.
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    Looked at a bunch of those. Thanks ;]
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    I urge all Americans here to read the Constitution of the United states as written. So that you can better understand the issue that we face in these dire times. To understand how the Senate and the House of Representatives along with the President of the united states have sold us the citizens to the Large corporations and use us to fight the Global war of forceful indoctrination.

    I present to you the United States Constitution the founding document. Of which Myself, My fellow brothers at arms, And every Politician in Washington is sworn to defend. I have done so, My fellow brothers and sisters at arms have done so. Can we say that the Politicians have done so? You decide after reading it. Then Read the Patriot Act, The National Defense Authorization Act, and The Trespassing Act.



    The United States Constitution


    The Patriot Act

    National Defense Authorization Act

    The Trespassing Act

    Sincerely,
    BraK SRL Forums Moderator
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    United States Citizen

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    Nope.

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