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    Damnit, now everyone is making me want to swap back to reflection/injection!
    (Kidding colours awesome)

    Anyway that sucks if Optimous has already been implemented, I was looking forward to prices rising! O well this new combat thing is exciting eh guys?
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    I think Optimus will make it easier to change ID'S, or maybe spawn invisible NPC'S just like the myths of years ago, which will affect Injection Bots. What if a invisible Leo The Gravedigger would spawn next to you, we couldnt see it with the bare eye, but the client would read its ID. Which makes the bot itself go into the random solving mode, what might break the bot, or go clicking on it like some insane-man what would be a new way of detecting. Same what if your botting Hill Giants with Rsbot and they spawn a invisible hill giants next to you the client would read it once again and might start clicking it. They could recognize your a bot.


    All together... Color isnt affected by that because it doesnt read the client!




    Quote Originally Posted by FloppyWien3r View Post
    Damnit, now everyone is making me want to swap back to reflection/injection!
    (Kidding colours awesome)

    Anyway that sucks if Optimous has already been implemented, I was looking forward to prices rising! O well this new combat thing is exciting eh guys?

    Injection sucks, and is reflection back :O ?

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    Any guesses of when the bot nuke portion of Optimus will come?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griff View Post
    Any guesses of when the bot nuke portion of Optimus will come?
    When Jagex's profits from wheel of fortune are more than bots' members subscriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by putonajonny View Post
    It sounds like they have decided that they can't stop bots completely so if they make updating / changing things as easy possible within the client then there will be no hope that injection/reflection can update in time. I don't know why they don't just have frequent changing IDs for everything, say every week.
    They can stop them, and they can stop us just as easy. I believe this platform will make a huge blow to the Injection/reflection clients. As in, never coming back.

    I agree, that would surely stop the other clients from ever working again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shay View Post
    The amount of work/manpower that'd take would outlay the gain.
    It can all be automated. Since I'm sure all the IDs are stored in a database.

    Quote Originally Posted by Easter Bunny View Post
    I think Optimus will make it easier to change ID'S, or maybe spawn invisible NPC'S just like the myths of years ago, which will affect Injection Bots. What if a invisible Leo The Gravedigger would spawn next to you, we couldnt see it with the bare eye, but the client would read its ID. Which makes the bot itself go into the random solving mode, what might break the bot, or go clicking on it like some insane-man what would be a new way of detecting. Same what if your botting Hill Giants with Rsbot and they spawn a invisible hill giants next to you the client would read it once again and might start clicking it. They could recognize your a bot.

    All together... Color isnt affected by that because it doesnt read the client!

    Injection sucks, and is reflection back :O ?
    I believe Optimus is aimed at killing the bots, and making game updates not go so awry every time. The possibilities that they can do with this platform is vast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easter Bunny View Post
    Injection sucks, and is reflection back :O ?
    You are aware of that the outcome of injection and reflection is basically the same right?

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    :facepalm: Learn this. Prices are fucked because Jagex doesn't understand how to run an economy, not because "oohhhh noes too many bots!!@@@" (supply and demand) Evidence: Gravestones, making every skill easier to train, lack of any interest in balancing prices, etc. Bots are just a supply of goods, not the supply of goods.

    I can point you to other MMOs with bot problems where the economy is just fine.

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    Why don't we create our own optimus? Now there's a thought

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    Let's DDoS all the reflection sites!~!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ucantseemebot View Post
    Good job, cause only Chinese gold farmers run 15+ accounts..as for people like Shay(Sin) and me: we only bot on our one and only accounts. I agree with Shay, it's all about skills and not gold since you can lose your gold but not your skills.
    actually thats incorrect, because if you get bused botting you lose skills too... I was botting combat and killing chickens for both profit and gold. Not only did i lose my gold but every single combat skill and non-combt skill i had over 50 was reduced by 8 levels..
    so rethink that statement there for a second

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaraxlan View Post
    actually thats incorrect, because if you get bused botting you lose skills too... I was botting combat and killing chickens for both profit and gold. Not only did i lose my gold but every single combat skill and non-combt skill i had over 50 was reduced by 8 levels..
    so rethink that statement there for a second
    This makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shay View Post
    This makes no sense.
    Yes it does.. it's a rollback. They take ALL your skills and split them XP-wise in half.

    A 99 becomes 92 since 92 is half way to 99.

    And for you guys saying optimus cannot kill colour. I wouldn't say that if I were you. There are games that block their canvas and their buffer's data. There is self-modifying clients. If Safemode was removed shit gets harder; all of SRL would be screwed for at least a week or two. They can block the DC to their main canvas from showing so that when you select the client, it only grabs the handle of the outer portion. This of course is for windows since Windows is the only platform I know of that uses a DC but maybe other platforms too can have something like this.

    Avast Antivirus does this already. Simba works the same way as Spy++ and has to select a target then use:
    GetWindowFromPoint(X, Y); where X and Y is the position of the mouse over the target.

    Now try selecting AvastAntivirus as a client, Simba gets totally pwned by that. It does not detect any colors, says no client selected, etc.. It's a measure for anti-cracking. One way around it is to select the desktop instead but that's so much more inaccurate. Smart should still work but I'm sure they can definitely break it if they tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    Yes it does.. it's a rollback. They take ALL your skills and split them XP-wise in half.

    A 99 becomes 92 since 92 is half way to 99.

    And for you guys saying optimus cannot kill colour. I wouldn't say that if I were you. There are games that block their canvas and their buffer's data. There is self-modifying clients. If Safemode was removed shit gets harder; all of SRL would be screwed for at least a week or two. They can block the DC to their main canvas from showing so that when you select the client, it only grabs the handle of the outer portion. This of course is for windows since Windows is the only platform I know of that uses a DC but maybe other platforms too can have something like this.

    Avast Antivirus does this already. Simba works the same way as Spy++ and has to select a target then use:
    GetWindowFromPoint(X, Y); where X and Y is the position of the mouse over the target.

    Now try selecting AvastAntivirus as a client, Simba gets totally pwned by that. It does not detect any colors, says no client selected, etc.. It's a measure for anti-cracking. One way around it is to select the desktop instead but that's so much more inaccurate. Smart should still work but I'm sure they can definitely break it if they tried.
    I know how a rollback works, i've experienced it.
    I was talking about how it had any relevance to his post.

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    Jagex said before summer, so in less than 3 weeks :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollybest View Post
    Still not half has bad as what it was pre-botnuke :P
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    According to the Beta Invitation it could be out early/mid July
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    I had gotten green drags as a slayer task, go out to the drags in wildy and theres atleast 100 bots out there on every world, quite sad really

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    Quote Originally Posted by bots420 View Post
    I had gotten green drags as a slayer task, go out to the drags in wildy and theres atleast 100 bots out there on every world, quite sad really
    I really can't wait for bots to be gone! Jagex ruined rune prices with the release of runespan

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    Quote Originally Posted by [J]ustin View Post
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    They could just ask the creators of rarebot/epicobt/RiD/powerbot to work for them aswell.. Probably cheaper than working over 9 months to get "rid of bots -.-'"

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    jagex should just make that area multi combat wilderness

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    I don't get why everyone here is so 'anti-bots', thats why we are here? We all bot? Do you mean the goldfamring-botters that you 'hate'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABC! View Post
    I don't get why everyone here is so 'anti-bots', thats why we are here? We all bot? Do you mean the goldfamring-botters that you 'hate'?
    yeah those since they make prices go crazy and when we get something legit, it ends up being low in price because of all these gold farmers out there..

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