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    Hello everyone. I am beginning a business to sell runescape gold to either other websites or to people. I have done all my calculations, and if I have 100 monitors set up, all having vm's (about 4-5 monitors per cp),running scar, all picking flax/spinning/banking, running 24 hours a day, I could make up to 285 million gp per day. I have actually found websites that are willing to buy this much gp! I will also create a website to sell to other RS players for $4-5 per million.

    But as you know, the cost of this would be amassed, and I was wondering if anyone at these forums had any suggestions?

    Would IBot work better for this? I know IBot Pro costs $100 per year, and if I did buy it, would i be able to run it on multiple computers?

    Or should I just buy that chinese bot, RSDemon, for $2 a week?

    Also, what would be the best computer to run this, and would be stable?

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    What are chinese bots?

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    Now how on earth do you think your gonna set up 100 monitors with 4-5 VM's running on them?!?! If you have the means to do all of what you said, then your in business. But if not, then I suggest just making a good script and selling it at Moparisthebest.

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    It's a pay-bot called RSdemon that is responsible for the massive influx of retarded lvl 3 autoers.

    You can read about it here
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    I haven't tried either of the bots you have mentioned.

    Just a suggestion. What would you do when the price of gp went down? What if RS died? What if botting on RS died? What scripts would you run, How many accounts would you have? How would you manage that many accounts?

    And just to pay off all of the expenses in computers (able to have VM's) would be more than $70,000($700 per comp, and 100 comps). Would you be able to afford this or would you take a loan? If you were to pick flax and all you would need p2p, which costs 5$ a month, how would you pay this?

    285 mil per day is just under $1000 a day.


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    If I were starting an RS GP business, I'd probably make my own bot. It'd work just like RSDemon, but it'd be scripted like aryan. I would make this program in C++ or assembly, and I'd make it as efficient as possible. Depending on your bandwidth, I think you could get 100+ bots running on a good pc. Thus, if you got 10 $1000 pc's, you could run about 1000 Bots! ( then I'd take over a world)

    One thing you should think about is bandwidth. If one RS connection takes about 50kbps, for the 500 bots you plan to run, you'd need a 25mbit connection (many t1 lines, or a t3 line):

    We provide T3...Monthly rates range from $2,000 to $15,000...

    A bit expensive, yes?

    *rereads post*
    Seems that you plan on having 20 pc's and 100 monitors? Why? Why get 5 gfx cards per monitor? Just get 20 pc's and 20 monitors...

    Then you'd only need a (maybe two) t1 line. (~$400) (at first, I assumed that you meant to buy 100 pc's and run 5 vm's on each. Now, I see that you plan to buy 20 pc's and run 100 bots, which would take alot less bandwidth)
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    I run RS perfectly on my crappy dial-up (26k ) and actually looked at the stream rate on RS. It is actually a 200-800bps connection (bytes per second) so you wouldn't really need a T3 line of you were to do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.klean View Post
    I haven't tried either of the bots you have mentioned.

    Just a suggestion. What would you do when the price of gp went down? What if RS died? What if botting on RS died? What scripts would you run, How many accounts would you have? How would you manage that many accounts?

    And just to pay off all of the expenses in computers (able to have VM's) would be more than $70,000($700 per comp, and 100 comps). Would you be able to afford this or would you take a loan? If you were to pick flax and all you would need p2p, which costs 5$ a month, how would you pay this?

    285 mil per day is just under $1000 a day.

    For price of gp...I don't think it can get much lower than $2 per mil. =p

    If RS died? I'd probably move on to WoW, but I highly doubt it will die.

    If botting died, I would come back to scar(scar is not a bot).

    If i sell all 280 million gp per day, I would pay off the debt in no time.

    Also... I highly doubt I will use SCAR for this, I was just using it as an example to show if I had 100 auto's going, I could make X amount of money.

    My partner, has plenty of money, trust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartzkid View Post
    *rereads post*
    Seems that you plan on having 20 pc's and 100 monitors? Why? Why get 5 gfx cards per monitor? Just get 20 pc's and 20 monitors...

    Then you'd only need a (maybe two) t1 line. (~$400) (at first, I assumed that you meant to buy 100 pc's and run 5 vm's on each. Now, I see that you plan to buy 20 pc's and run 100 bots, which would take alot less bandwidth)


    Yes, I know internet might be expensive, but then again, we'd be making plenty of money per day. Also, I dont think I'm at a level yet to create my own bot =p.

    Also, i wouldnt have 5 gfx cards

    Most cp's come with 1 monitor slot by default. I would buy two more gfx cards with 2 montior slots each, 1+2+2=5.

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    I suggest a bot, and maybe two computers, if your going to be able to pay $70,000 for monitors and computers, why not just buy like 5 at the most and pay a pro programer to make you a private bot. Maybe sell CD keys to it aswell to make some extra money if you need it. The guy who made RSdemon sells over 3000 chinese CD keys a week which is about 6000 yuan a week(dno if thats alot) and about 50 US ones which is 100USD. Also did you consider the power that will take, 100 monitors is gunna be a pritty big power bill. Yeah, anyway Scar is not the way to do it, pay a programer is the best idea in my opinion, RSDEmon limits the number of players at a time to 50 pr window, if you get your own one made it could be unlimited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meanage View Post
    I suggest a bot, and maybe two computers, if your going to be able to pay $70,000 for monitors and computers, why not just buy like 5 at the most and pay a pro programer to make you a private bot. Maybe sell CD keys to it aswell to make some extra money if you need it. The guy who made RSdemon sells over 3000 chinese CD keys a week which is about 6000 yuan a week(dno if thats alot) and about 50 US ones which is 100USD. Also did you consider the power that will take, 100 monitors is gunna be a pritty big power bill. Yeah, anyway Scar is not the way to do it, pay a programer is the best idea in my opinion, RSDEmon limits the number of players at a time to 50 pr window, if you get your own one made it could be unlimited.

    Thx for the info, Meanage.

    But approx. how much $ do you think I would have to pay the programmer?

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    Depends how good you want the programmer to be

    If you're gonna sell auths, then you could pay more

    Also depends how much you want the programmer to work on the bot, which depends how fast you want to start the business
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    I have no idea but youd think itd be a bit over the average wages, like paying a builder.

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    Just looked at some projects going on over at getacoder

    Seems that, if you want it done in C++, it will cost from $500-6k

    Assembly (more efficient) will cost from $900-7k

    Sadly, I don't think this would be possible to do with Java (would be way cheaper...theres alot of java programmers out there)...

    These prices are probably off by lots because I have no way of telling how much code is in rsdemon...all the protection on it makes it a whole lot bigger...

    You should probably find a very experienced C++ coder on some forum and ask them how hard it is to hook a java applet. If you did that, and got someone to make it, it wouldn't be so hard to put a frontend on it (you could even do this in delphi)

    They would pretty much make a .dll, which you would use to hook the rs client. You'd control the client either by giving it raw data (all action id's, I guess), or, later on, once the hook had a more advanced frontend, you could script into it, just like you would with scar.

    (gasp. what if someone made a plugin that'd let scar hook the rs client? hmmmm....)
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