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    Default is it okay if i smoke weed and do a sport?

    i want to know if its good for me becouse i use to smoke a 3rd lung =3 liter of smoke -weed-
    right b4 wrestling practice and i wile i wrestled i felt my heart pumping fast and i felt adrenalin all over my body that just kept me going
    and i alsow weight lifeted wile on it
    when i wrestled i did everything diffrent i thought of diffrent moves i could do but sometimes i would axidently hit my partner becouse i had a diffrent reaction and i kneed him on face and i felt awfull haha=)
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    =0 hope i get replies

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    Ask your school.

    I can bet they will say no. Also have fun when they do random drug tests, you come up positive and get kicked out/in legal trouble.


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    Basically if you smoke before you do a sport, your heart get weaker and if you use a lot of force, then the risk might be fatal.. I've heard smoking gets you weaker faster but that's all I've heard. Ask your school clinic about the consequences of smoking weed and then doing a sport. If you don't want them to know your the smoker, let them know it's a friend of yours you want to help out.

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    you can smoke weed and do anything... anything EXCEPT for play a sport. sorry

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    It's hardly practical, I used to smoke a fair amount when I was playing rugby and was still competent but not as good as I could have been had I not been smoking it.
    I certainly never did it before training/a game, it is a depressant drug (meaning it slows the connection between brain and muscle down). So if you are required to actually do anything physically don't expect to do it better when you are high, because you simply won't.

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    Your heart pumping faster is a bad thing, it's a sign that it is having to work harder.

    Smoking weed before sports will definitely reduce performance.
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    Weed is a downer/depressant and a psychedelic, which can impair judgement. Two things you don't want playing a sport.

    And also the fact that sport teams are usually hard on that type of shit.

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    If you have to do a urine test for anything, they wont take lightly to you smoking weed.

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    why would you smoke and then do sports? it makes no sense.


    if you really can't stop smoking it then leave it to the weekends or when you have spare time, it's bad for you and it shouldn't get in the way of your everyday life, nor should you smoke it before sport.

    also, it's going to bring your fitness levels down, so you may aswell quit smoking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 321 View Post
    why would you smoke and then do sports? it makes no sense.


    if you really can't stop smoking it then leave it to the weekends or when you have spare time, it's bad for you and it shouldn't get in the way of your everyday life, nor should you smoke it before sport.

    also, it's going to bring your fitness levels down, so you may aswell quit smoking it.
    That's what I was thinking, weed does the complete opposite of what you want. >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmx View Post
    Weed is a downer/depressant and a psychedelic, which can impair judgement.
    No offense to you personally, but that is the most retarded thing I've seen. Anyone who's ever used Marijuana regularly or who is even slightly educated on the plant knows that it is not a psychelic, nor a downer, and only slightly considered a depressant (CNS Depressant), and that's only because it turns off pain signals in your brain and body.

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    Marijuana increases heart rate, increases blood pressure if you're lying/sitting, and decreases if you're standing. It also lowers Testosterone levels and increases the production of estrogen while you're high.

    Basically, it will make you more flexible, increase your tolerance for pain, but at the same time throw off your balance, increase heaviness of breathing, and your muscles won't be getting as much testosterone as they would otherwise

    Also, to anyone who says that smoking weed and then exercising can be fatal is retarded and knows nothing about marijuana. The worst that would happen would be you get dizzy or you derp out and drop some kind of weights or fuck up with some machinery and that causes you to die, and even then, that wouldn't be a death caused by marijuana, it'd be a death causes by dropping the weights/etc. There hasn't been a single documented death directly caused by marijuana.

    Also, when you smoke weed, it does dilate your lungs, instead of constrict (like tobacco), so you may be able to breath easier after smoking. I have friends in Cross country who will smoke weed before practice or races, and then getting amazing times. They just say that the weed helps them breath easier, numbs enough of the pain/feeling that you aren't discouraged as much to keep going and pushing, and it increases heart rate so you are burning more calories and such.

    One problem you may encounter is Cotton Mouth. This is the experience that most smokers experience after smoking weed where their mouth gets very dry, and you just crave water or something to drink. So if you're wrestling, I'd recommend having some form of refreshment close by to fix this.
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    Sure, you will never get anywhere though. But then again i know people are beasts but hotbox everyday. I strongly discourage you from smoking whatsoever unless you wanna cough up blood by the age of 25. Its not worth it.

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    I doubt drawing smoke into your lungs is not healthy in any circumstance.

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    Weed makes you lazier in general..so yeah

    Also if the school for some reason makes people get drug tests you're screwed (9 months in hair)

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    Quote Originally Posted by illester View Post
    Sure, you will never get anywhere though. But then again i know people are beasts but hotbox everyday. I strongly discourage you from smoking whatsoever unless you wanna cough up blood by the age of 25. Its not worth it.
    You're so uneducated about marijuana that this is my gift to you:



    There is no link between weed and lung cancer, there is no link to other lung diseases that are commonly caused by Tobacco. They are two VERY different plants. Don't make an ass of yourself by assuming they cause or do the same things to the human body. The worst lung damage that smoking weed can do is cause chronic bronchitis, or chronic pneumonia, and that has only been recorded by people who smoke pot for literally decades.

    Seriously, I know people who have been smoking weed daily for over 50 years, and they are completely normal.

    Also, did you know that over 50% of the White House staff admitted to smoking pot within a year before their hiring date? Obama (regardless of whether you like him or not, he's still the President of the US) was actually a HUGE pot smoker when he lived in Hawaii. He actually invented "total absorption" with his friends, which means that every time you take a hit of a pipe/joint/bong, you had to hold the smoke in so long that when you exhaled, no smoke would come out..... Or else you'd be skipped in the next time it goes around the circle. He even used to do "Roof hits" where he would inhale the smoke resting on the ceiling of his car. Basically, just because you smoke pot doesn't mean anything about whether or not you're going to become successful or not. YOU as a person make that happen; a drug that is statistically as addictive as Caffeine (@ 9% of users becoming clinically addicted), is not going to keep you from becoming successful.

    Also, to add another example: Ted Turner, owner of CNN, smokes a joint every day. The guy is old as hell, and rich as hell.

    My last example, is Abraham Lincoln. He has actually been quoted saying that one of his favorite pastimes was to sit on his rocking chair on his porch, and smoke "sweet hemp." Back then, Weed was known as "hemp." It was a long time before anyone called it "Marijuana"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent! View Post
    You're so uneducated about marijuana that this is my gift to you.
    Not going to even read the first sentence of your wall of text. Out of everyone on the thread you seem to think you're the only one who's educated.. True pot heads defend weed no matter what others tell them so why would anyone even bother arguing with you.

    Why don't you go play football high as hell and get knocked till kingdom come. If you're going to say there is no documents that relate weed to any problems then that right there will stop anyone with sense from reading the rest of your argument.

    That's like saying nothing has an impact on you because you're the one that caused it since you chose to get high. Stupid argument. Or.. You knock someone down with your car while drunk but it's not the alcohol's fault and it's not yours, it's your car's because your car is too stupid stop on it's own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent! View Post
    You're so uneducated about marijuana that this is my gift to you:



    There is no link between weed and lung cancer, there is no link to other lung diseases that are commonly caused by Tobacco. They are two VERY different plants. Don't make an ass of yourself by assuming they cause or do the same things to the human body. The worst lung damage that smoking weed can do is cause chronic bronchitis, or chronic pneumonia, and that has only been recorded by people who smoke pot for literally decades.

    Seriously, I know people who have been smoking weed daily for over 50 years, and they are completely normal.

    Also, did you know that over 50% of the White House staff admitted to smoking pot within a year before their hiring date? Obama (regardless of whether you like him or not, he's still the President of the US) was actually a HUGE pot smoker when he lived in Hawaii. He actually invented "total absorption" with his friends, which means that every time you take a hit of a pipe/joint/bong, you had to hold the smoke in so long that when you exhaled, no smoke would come out..... Or else you'd be skipped in the next time it goes around the circle. He even used to do "Roof hits" where he would inhale the smoke resting on the ceiling of his car. Basically, just because you smoke pot doesn't mean anything about whether or not you're going to become successful or not. YOU as a person make that happen; a drug that is statistically as addictive as Caffeine (@ 9% of users becoming clinically addicted), is not going to keep you from becoming successful.

    Also, to add another example: Ted Turner, owner of CNN, smokes a joint every day. The guy is old as hell, and rich as hell.

    My last example, is Abraham Lincoln. He has actually been quoted saying that one of his favorite pastimes was to sit on his rocking chair on his porch, and smoke "sweet hemp." Back then, Weed was known as "hemp." It was a long time before anyone called it "Marijuana"
    "Marijuana smoke contains cannabinoid compounds in addition to many of the same components as tobacco smoke. For instance, benzopyrene, a carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon, is found in both tobacco and marijuana smoke and has been implicated in mutations related to lung cancer.4 - 7 Furthermore, experimental studies support an association between marijuana smoke exposure and lung cancer, with lung cancer cell lines demonstrating tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)-induced malignant cell proliferation8 - 9 and a murine model suggesting that THC promotes tumor growth by inhibiting antitumor immunity by a cannibinoid-2 receptor mediated pathway.10"

    I copied and pasted that off a scholary paper. Weed may not be that bad, but its not like it'll have no bad effects at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    Not going to even read the first sentence of your wall of text. Out of everyone on the thread you seem to think you're the only one who's educated.. True pot heads defend weed no matter what others tell them so why would anyone even bother arguing with you.

    Why don't you go play football high as hell and get knocked till kingdom come. If you're going to say there is no documents that relate weed to any problems then that right there will stop anyone with sense from reading the rest of your argument.

    That's like saying nothing has an impact on you because you're the one that caused it since you chose to get high. Stupid argument. Or.. You knock someone down with your car while drunk but it's not the alcohol's fault and it's not yours, it's your car's because your car is too stupid stop on it's own.
    /facepalm

    First you say you're not even going to read my wall of text... and then next you start to try and tell me what I've said if you haven't even read it? /logic

    Don't be ignorant, and don't be arrogant. Also, don't assume, because assume makes an ass of u and me. Actually READ something and then make a rebuttle, don't show blatant ignorance by straight up disregarding the other person's point.

    I've been fully able to accept any negative consequence of using weed when people have been able to NOT be ignorant and arrogant and have provided me with scholarly articles (studies directly from medical journals) to back up their claims. I have a pile of medical journal studies that have been given to me by licensed therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists, and other people that I've debated this topic with.

    I have a 25+ page word document that has a large combination of different studies, articles, et cetera, all on marijuana and its safety/effects.

    Again, don't be arrogant, nor ignorant. I never said that "there is no documents that relate weed to any problems." So don't go putting words in my mouth. If you had ACTUALLY used your brain and read my post properly, you'd have found that I said there are no link between Marijuana and Lung cancer (Oh lookie here, this is the article: http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-finds-no-link) and that you don't find the same lung problems such as COPD that you find with tobacco. You wanna educate yourself a little bit? Watch this video interview with Dr. Tashkin, director of Pulmonary lung function at UCLA:

    Honestly, if you REALLY believe you know more about this plant than me, PLEASE go ahead and present me with valid, recent scholarly articles and studies proving what you are trying to claim.

    You'll find that I don't make claims about weed unless I have a source behind it. There's a reason my Works Cited page for my Speech Final that was done on marijuana was multiple pages long. I've written papers, I've done Speeches, I've done PowerPoints, hell, I've even brought stacks of papers proving my Health teacher wrong whenever he tried to tell the class something about Cannabis that wasn't true.


    Quote Originally Posted by vaporak10 View Post
    "Marijuana smoke contains cannabinoid compounds in addition to many of the same components as tobacco smoke. For instance, benzopyrene, a carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon, is found in both tobacco and marijuana smoke and has been implicated in mutations related to lung cancer.4 - 7 Furthermore, experimental studies support an association between marijuana smoke exposure and lung cancer, with lung cancer cell lines demonstrating tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)-induced malignant cell proliferation8 - 9 and a murine model suggesting that THC promotes tumor growth by inhibiting antitumor immunity by a cannibinoid-2 receptor mediated pathway.10"

    I copied and pasted that off a scholary paper. Weed may not be that bad, but its not like it'll have no bad effects at all.
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-finds-no-link

    Read that.

    And also watch the video I posted in my previous response, it's relevant.

    Also, check out http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/p...essional/page4

    Talks basically about how cannabis has antitumor, antiproliferative, and helps prevent metastasis of cancer cells

    "Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis invasion and metastasis.[9-12] Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent! View Post
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-finds-no-link

    Read that.

    And also watch the video I posted in my previous response, it's relevant.

    Also, check out http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/p...essional/page4

    Talks basically about how cannabis has antitumor, antiproliferative, and helps prevent metastasis of cancer cells

    "Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis invasion and metastasis.[9-12] Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. "
    I guess its not that bad but I find it hard to believe its healthy to inhale anything at that temperature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaporak10 View Post
    I guess its not that bad but I find it hard to believe its healthy to inhale anything at that temperature.
    While it can cause scarring to the lung tissue over years and years (decades even), it's not as bad as tobacco, which is a legal substance in the US. It may cause a handful of lung issues, but it's a lot less different kinds than Tobacco, and the risk for it is much lower.

    Also, inhaling ANYTHING by burning dried plant matter and taking it into your lungs can cause scarring or damage over longterm use, HOWEVER, there is a way around this: Vaporizing. Basically a vaporizer, instead of burning and carbonizing the plant matter, it usually uses electricity (through batteries, plug in, etc) to turn the moisture into water vapor, which you inhale with 0 negative lung health effects. The only reason you find all those carcinogenic materials in the smoke of marijuana is because it's carbonized (burned), and that brings a lot of those out. When you just inhale water vapor that is combined with THC (when you burn weed, you are inhaling THC (tetrahydracannibinol) and CBD (Cannabidiol), but when you vaporize, you only get the THC, meaning you can smoke the CBD that's left in the already vaped weed later should you wish) and it lacks all of the carcinogens that are found in marijuana smoke.

    Basically, in TL;DR form: Using a Vaporizer instead of smoking it removes the risks of lung damage

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    you better don't, you'll prestate a lot worse after smoking weed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P1nky View Post
    You will make silly mistakes... I wouldn't!
    I think I see what you did there


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    And why is it that when somebody makes a thread about weed it gets a bazillion hits... you realize that this is just you posting your opinion about weed like most of you have in so many other pot related threads. You can pretty much copy paste your longest defense and leave.
    I don't understand why people have to stand up for weed or downtalk it, you aren't changing anybody's mind. If you don't smoke, nobody is going to make you smoke- especially not over the internet. If you smoke, you will most definitely continue smoking- no effect from internet walls of text.

    I don't smoke, and reading "Weed cantz hurtz yew!" isnt going to change my decision. What are you thinking? After reading a biased review on marijuana I'm going to pick up my bong and head to the hills? lolno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post

    I don't understand why people have to stand up for weed or downtalk it, you aren't changing anybody's mind. If you don't smoke, nobody is going to make you smoke- especially not over the internet. If you smoke, you will most definitely continue smoking- no effect from internet walls of text.

    I don't smoke, and reading "Weed cantz hurtz yew!" isnt going to change my decision. What are you thinking? After reading a biased review on marijuana I'm going to pick up my bong and head to the hills? lolno.

    The only person who usually has a good comment is Brandon/ggzz since he has a vast knowledge of the universe.

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    Although you may not be directly and immediately affected by material in this debate, it still may be affecting others. I myself did a lot of research about weed on the internet before I decided to toke up for the first time. There were plenty of debates on this forum that I read, which ultimately factored into my decision to do so.

    The fact of the matter is that there has been years of dirty government propaganda related to the "risks" of weed. And throughout these years we have put forward enough scientific studies to prove many of these risks untrue. Unfortunately, there are still many people out there who feel obligated to perpetuate these false claims against weed, and in turn, perpetuate ridiculous legislation and the discrimination of otherwise-law-abiding citizens.

    And you're saying that it isn't even worth it to debate about? How the hell do you think anything changes in this world? No no no... its much better to say nothing about it while remaining ignorant of the actual consequences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trent!
    YOU as a person make that happen; a drug that is statistically as addictive as Caffeine (@ 9% of users becoming clinically addicted), is not going to keep you from becoming successful.
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