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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    Most IDE's are for windows. Some do have Mac versions as well but.. To program C# on a mac, well.. good luck with that. C++? Oh yeah.. gotta install a load of bs..

    Apple is all about selling Models. They do the same shit with the 4, 4s, 5 and the 5S due in January.

    Really now? The features that was in the 4S could have been in the 4 already. It's already been done with a "Jail" break. Apple is jail.
    Before I start rambling I'd like to say that I've been proud user of only PC's and owner of two Dells. For years now I've been supporting PC all the way, but ever since I got an old MacBook as my work PC I've changed my mind on quite a few things. The model is ancient, but it works flawlessly apart from taking a while to start/shut down so I don't see how Mac is forcing new models on customers (Yes, with the iPhone etc.., but I feel no need whatsoever to upgrade to a better model. My phone is an old Nokia that's more than 10 years old by the way.).
    The thing is, this Mac, even though it is so old, is just perfect in terms of heating. I've broken 2 graphic cards on previous Dells I owned due to overheating - even while using a cooler!. So hey, I prefer this old-timer MacBook over my Intel7Core Windows 7 PC, which just ends up getting on my nerves with the constant overheating. I had the fan fixed just recently and nothing has changed. Macs just come over as quieter to me and all I need for programming is a nice quiet environment not some rustling laptop fan.
    As for updates, Mac seems much more stable than Windows, as I'm not constantly asked to restart my PC and harassed with windows that pop up out of nowhere.

    Finally, to the programming side. Not being able to program on a Mac is a common misconception.
    C++ compilers for Mac:
    GCC, Clang, Intel-C++ can be downloaded as open source programs. Xcode uses the backend of the LLVM-Compiler (clang is the frontend).
    IDE's for Mac:
    NetBeans, Eclipse, Qt Creator IDE, Code::Blocks, C++ Builder XE2, KDevelop, Xcode

    Where everything except for C++ Builder XE2 and Xcode is FREE open source!
    In newer models Xcode and other IDE's come with Mac so there are plenty of programming environments already at hand when you get it.
    The same can't be said for PC.

    EDIT: Just downloaded Xcode for free on the AppStore. Thought it costs so I stuck with Eclipse before. Sweet...

    EDIT2: Currently reading 700 pages of C++ book and the mastermind author (its stated at the beginning in German) - translated: "...is currently worshipping a Mac". The OS doesn't matter and you don't have to use a VM to program on a Mac. A VM is useful for testing out programs on other OSX without having the need to buy a new PC, but the OS itself has no disadvantage over PC when it comes to programming.

    The only thing I dislike is the Mac GUI - well I'm not very used to it - but I love how smooth and silent everything is.
    It's Mac > PC for me even though I've been using PC for the better part of my life (and still do).

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    People still comparing windows to OS X and not pc to mac
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    Quote Originally Posted by grats View Post
    People still comparing windows to OS X and not pc to mac
    Haha..You said yourself at one point that you hate this poll and it should be OSX vs Win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runehack123 View Post
    Before I start rambling I'd like to say that I've been proud user of only PC's and owner of two Dells. For years now I've been supporting PC all the way, but ever since I got an old MacBook as my work PC I've changed my mind on quite a few things. The model is ancient, but it works flawlessly apart from taking a while to start/shut down so I don't see how Mac is forcing new models on customers (Yes, with the iPhone etc.., but I feel no need whatsoever to upgrade to a better model. My phone is an old Nokia that's more than 10 years old by the way.).
    The thing is, this Mac, even though it is so old, is just perfect in terms of heating. I've broken 2 graphic cards on previous Dells I owned due to overheating - even while using a cooler!. So hey, I prefer this old-timer MacBook over my Intel7Core Windows 7 PC, which just ends up getting on my nerves with the constant overheating. I had the fan fixed just recently and nothing has changed. Macs just come over as quieter to me and all I need for programming is a nice quiet environment not some rustling laptop fan.
    As for updates, Mac seems much more stable than Windows, as I'm not constantly asked to restart my PC and harassed with windows that pop up out of nowhere.

    Finally, to the programming side. Not being able to program on a Mac is a common misconception.
    C++ compilers for Mac:
    GCC, Clang, Intel-C++ can be downloaded as open source programs. Xcode uses the backend of the LLVM-Compiler (clang is the frontend).
    IDE's for Mac:
    NetBeans, Eclipse, Qt Creator IDE, Code::Blocks, C++ Builder XE2, KDevelop, Xcode

    Where everything except for C++ Builder XE2 and Xcode is FREE open source!
    In newer models Xcode and other IDE's come with Mac so there are plenty of programming environments already at hand when you get it.
    The same can't be said for PC.

    EDIT: Just downloaded Xcode for free on the AppStore. Thought it costs so I stuck with Eclipse before. Sweet...

    EDIT2: Currently reading 700 pages of C++ book and the mastermind author (its stated at the beginning in German) - translated: "...is currently worshipping a Mac". The OS doesn't matter and you don't have to use a VM to program on a Mac. A VM is useful for testing out programs on other OSX without having the need to buy a new PC, but the OS itself has no disadvantage over PC when it comes to programming.

    The only thing I dislike is the Mac GUI - well I'm not very used to it - but I love how smooth and silent everything is.
    It's Mac > PC for me even though I've been using PC for the better part of my life (and still do).
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    Also Xcode shows up as free for me on the app store. Are you not a registered developer? I think once you register your apple id as a developer (Even just the free one) xcode should be free.
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    os wise I prefere os x over windows 7 (havn't used 8 at all, and own windows 7) but hardware wise pc > mac
    due to reasons posted already and the biggest one - price.

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    i cant choose they are both something great... though my experiance is on pc, though mac is a pc... its all the same ... i would choose windows over most software

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantonman View Post
    i cant choose they are both something great... though my experiance is on pc, though mac is a pc... its all the same ... i would choose windows over most software
    They are not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj95 View Post
    They are not the same.
    Majority of the components are
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    I like the flexibility that comes with PC's over Mac's I don't want to be tied down to one company.

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    I use Ubuntu most of the time just because I like the UI and some programming languages are more at home on Linux (Python and Perl for example). I still use Windows for Windows-specific programming and some games though. The last time I used a Mac was for a typing class in middle school, and the computers were ancient

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    Pc ftw

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    It all comes down to personal preference, Mac looks stylish and as a result is more expensive generally easier to use, more straight foward i guess if you dont know anything about computers.

    Pc on the other hand has more compatibility which makes it a better choice in my opinion for gaming, virus wise I just back up all my data on an external hard drive and just reformat when ever i have any problems. Simple easy to do dosn't take more then an hour or 2.

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    Very valid points

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    I honestly love windows for everyday items (Just grew up using it) However Macs work better for my graphic design, ps ect.

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    Bump, I want to re-open this for discussion

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    Mac Vs. Windows Vs. Linux. Each has their own value. I just see the least amount of value in mac.
    Photoshop and typical image editing/animation software is only really typically better on Mac because they are developed for Macs. Likewise the same argument can be made towards any Windows based program and I won't argue that much. The major difference I see is how much did I spend on the parts - and Mac hates letting people build their own PCs, so I kinda dislike them much more for that.

    Too bad Linux isn't an option, I honestly use Linux far more than I use Mac. But Windows still tops my use list so I'll have to stick with it I suppose.


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    Besides the price differences, I'd say Macs. IMO they're more versatile, run programs smoother, and heck if you want windows just do dual boot and you can have the best of both worlds. Too bad I have a pc...Macs are just too expensive in comparison
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    I'm on a mac right now, my school has all imacs. They're not bad, but they are kind of annoying sometimes, although I attribute this to them having all of the programs on the network so if a lot of people open say, excel, all at the same time then it tends to freeze.

    I use windows 7 at home and it works really well, never had any issues with it and I like the GUI more than osx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWxi View Post
    I'm on a mac right now, my school has all imacs. They're not bad, but they are kind of annoying sometimes, although I attribute this to them having all of the programs on the network so if a lot of people open say, excel, all at the same time then it tends to freeze.

    I use windows 7 at home and it works really well, never had any issues with it and I like the GUI more than osx.
    Why would a school want to invest money in macs -.- our school dells have got to be around $300, the fact is school computers only need to browse the web and open word. No need to buy anything decent (windows or mac)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer Barbrady View Post
    Why would a school want to invest money in macs -.- our school dells have got to be around $300, the fact is school computers only need to browse the web and open word. No need to buy anything decent (windows or mac)
    They're also used for photo and video editing, stuff like that.

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    ^ exactly. My university only had Macs. Never once saw a PC on campus.
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    My college is a small private college, we have both Macs and PC's available for use, but personally I'm a windows 7 fan. I love building my own PC and with mac that really isn't an option, and of course Linux can go on a PC easy as cake a well because its free

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    PC for life!

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    Mac is like Alienware, too expensive for what it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by denart5 View Post
    Mac is like Alienware, too expensive for what it is
    Love my alienware desktop honestly, Expensive yes, Can you get a better computer? not really.

    For those like me who don't have time to build there own, its a very good option, and not a bad deal considering all the comes with it.

    Ive ran 26 Bots on it before and only used 45% Cpu and 6.5gb/ram :P Only thing that limits me is my internet connection, cause i live in the middle of no where with shit internet

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