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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagex
    Over the last couple of weeks we've had a sudden increase in reports of people apparently using 'bots' to play the game automatically (which is in breach of Rule 7). Firstly, we want to let all our honest players (and that's the vast majority of you) know that we are aware of this problem, and that we are taking immediate steps to tackle it. We currently ban about 8000 accounts every week for trying this sort of cheating, and for a long time that kept things under control. Things have clearly moved on, however, and that is no longer enough, so we are in the process of upgrading our detection and prevention systems. We also have logs of historical activity, so we'll be able to make sure that dishonesty doesn't pay. Please bear with us while we sort it out! There are also ways you can help us, so please read on.

    What's happening is more complex than it first seems. What's actually going on is that the VAST majority of the level-3 characters you see playing the game repetitively and not talking to anyone, are actually people from countries such as China and Korea, who are trying to collect RuneScape gold to sell for real world money (obviously against the rules). Some of them aren't even using bots, they are just playing the game very repetitively with a single-minded purpose to collect gold. These people have no interest in playing the game properly, and therefore don't care if they get banned. The final effect is the same, though – it spoils the game for everyone else.

    We can (and do) ban them - including using IP bans - but they still find ways to make accounts. We seized 6 billion in RuneScape gold by banning real-world traders last week! Unfortunately, these people are obliged to work such long hours and are paid such low wages that if even a tiny fraction of gold makes it to the market, those running the sweatshops will be encouraged to continue. This is why we are now further increasing our efforts.

    So how to stop it? The answer is clearly to tackle the black market. As long as there is the potential to make money, they won't stop trying, even though it damages the game for everyone else. Of course, if nobody spent real world money on RuneScape gold these unwelcome groups would just switch to a different game.

    Therefore, we are going to be cracking down HARD on people who breach Rule 12 (no real world trading). We can catch people who break this rule, because we have a sophisticated trade monitoring system and we can trace suspicious activity all the way back to the original bot accounts.

    If you break Rule 12 and buy RuneScape gold you are directly funding this problem. You are funding underground gangs who run Chinese sweatshops, and creating the black market which causes this botting problem. Therefore, this rule will now be enforced as a priority, with no second chances. If you break Rule 12 and we catch you, then you will not only lose the money you spent, but also your entire account. Obviously, we will always be careful to make sure nobody is banned in error.

    Finally, we have noticed some 3rd party sites, which call themselves 'fansites', but then advertise black market trading sites. This will no longer be tolerated. By running such advertising these sites are directly supporting these gangs, and are thus causing the botting problems they then complain about! We don't consider sites that encourage our players to break the rules and endanger their own users to be 'fansites'. (i.e. They're advertising things to their users, which, if the advertising works, will serve to get their users banned!) We consider them cheat sites, and they will be treated accordingly. True fans of the game don’t encourage cheating!

    This brings us to the last point. HOW YOU CAN HELP! You can help us by:

    1. Using the in-game 'report abuse' facility to tell us about players you see breaking rule 7. Of course we're not going to ban anyone just on the basis of a player report and will always thoroughly check them ourselves, too - but such reports still help us know who we should be checking up on.

    2. Boycott any corrupt 'fansites' which advertise RuneScape gold for sale. There are plenty of genuine fansites out there who don't support cheating in this way, and we fully support those sites. Use those ones instead. Also, don't advertise, link to, or talk about any of these corrupt fansites. Obviously, if they stop supporting cheating, you can start using them again.

    3. Under absolutely no circumstances buy RuneScape gold/items for real money! Doing so causes this whole problem, and we'll ban you if we catch you doing it.

    The number of honest players still far, far outweighs the tiny minority causing trouble. Now we’re on the case you can be sure we’ll have this sorted out asap.
    first off :LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I about pissed myself reading this. well from what i gather from this the only problem that they see are the people macroing using rsdeamon cause they are tlking about the lvl 3's running around and the "chinese sweatshops" lol they sound really racist here. its like hey macroers are all chinese!!! ban china!!! well, jst thought i would put in my 2 cent.
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    Already posted but yeah lmfao.

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    omfg my friend told me about this and he said jagex was being racist like hell. What ruins the game for everybody is jagex's lies
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    The auto-reporter for all level 3, 4, and 5's we have made them post it. SRL developers should be proud, our macros are sending in THOUSANDS of abuse reports... DAILY
    Current Project: Catching up. XD. Potentially back for the summer, depending on how things go.

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    Jagex = Liers Lmao?

    Wow, does anyone actually believe that crap about sweat shops?

    Where do they come up with this crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icefire908 View Post
    Jagex = Liers Lmao?

    Wow, does anyone actually believe that crap about sweat shops?

    Where do they come up with this crap?
    There have been MANY reports on people in china selling game gold for real cash. And huge sites like BBC don't lie much...

    ...but whats with the "sweat-shop"???

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    I dont know if they really think that RS is such a big game that people are willing to run sweatshops across the world for it and making little money doing so... It just dont make sense to me. And yea is does sound like they are being pretty racist.

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    The sweatshops part = true
    But the "Banning 8000 every week" ? BS
    Huehuehuehuehue

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    Yea that did sound pretty bogus, I dont know how they hell they could manage to do that...thats pretty sad about the sweatshops though.

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    Jagex is just trying to cover up something that they cant.
    And if they still havent realized that people macro their game, then they are just ignorant.
    The whole thing about the sweatshop seems completely irrational and is a dumb reason why anyone would play this game.
    They have to come to realize that people cheat and people macro Jagex's game and that's that.

    It's only logical.

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    Wow these guys are parnoid. But thankfuly most of that doent apply here, what with the SRL dev discoraging real world trading and making money through bots. And 8000 account a week wow. If there banning that many people a week (very unlikely) then there got to be some determind guys sending bots through tut island or an amazing tut runner (also very unlikely).

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    the sweat shops part is very true
    "For it is not what goes into your mouth that will defile you; rather, it is what comes out of your mouth that defiles you." - Jesus of Nazareth

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    LOL that was kinda funny
    Willing to test anything and help any scripter
    with anything to repay the community..

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    [lol lets ban china]!! rofl i lvoe that

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    Yeah, today i saw a lvl 55 say, "Wow theres so many chinese mining essence" and she was all trying to talk to them in chinese...fucked up

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    Lol, some of the replies to Jagex's latest update are quite funny: 15-16-685-43803056


    11-May-2007 18:44:29
    i have an idea to fight against bots!

    why dont jagex go and release some spy attached auto programms, so for some1 who use it, jagex can trace his/her ip by the spy attached on it?
    11-May-2007 18:55:58
    Just like to show my appreciation to the dedicated Jagex team who are cleary trying to do something.

    Well Done People
    Yes, trying to do something.

    11-May-2007 20:32:38
    This is no mistake. These players willingily stole Jagex property by buying from theives (autoers or sweatshops). IF it were up to me, Not only would these people be banned, but I would file a real life lawsuit against them all. (read terms and conditions)

    And for the record, Jagex has improved detection of real world traders and distingusihing from regular players who are just lending items.

    My guess. THey are using a similar program to that that checks for plagierism in schools, which is incrediably accurate.

    It doesn't take much to find your sale on the internet if you made one.
    That's from a forum mod, they actually think that real world item trading is stealing Jagex's property.

    All Jagex are trying to do is brainwash people into thinking that all autoers are sad people who have no better way to get money.

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    I would really laugh if they had chinese runescape sweatshops, i would seriously go there and give them all like 100 dollars. but yeah they do sound really racist...

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    I would love to see Jagex try to file lawsuits against autoers They would actually lose money based on all the court fees and lawyer fees etc.

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    I dont know if they really think that RS is such a big game that people are willing to run sweatshops across the world for it
    The way I see it, it could be possible but the sweatshops implies a business idea and if they really wanted to increase profits and efficiency they would train their lev 3 noobs!

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    well gold farmers(the chinese"sweatshops") suck, i say ban them all, if they dont have the sense to auto their noobs to a decent level(at least 30) with a couple more stats,(it only takes a day or two to get an army of ten to combat twenty or so)and put some normal clothes on them, then they don't deserve to auto. my "army" consists of thirty now, all above level thirty combat and most have skills other than what i auto them for.
    anyways thats my two cents.

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    SCAR Code:
    program AboutBans;
    var bots,days,bans: integer;
    begin
      Bots:= 8000;
      Days:= 7;
     
      Days:= 7 * 24;
      Days:= Days * 60;
     
      Bans:= Days / Bots;
      Writeln('  They ban: ' + inttostr(bans) + ' bot per minute');
      if bans = 1 then
        writeln('  Which i think is bull crap');
    end.

    Code:
    • Narcle: I recall Jukka releasing a bunch of scripts like this before... Its how he rolls I think. rofl
    • Solarwind: Dude, you are like... t3h s3x.
    • Hy71194: JuKKa you're a machine! You released 3 scripts in 10 minutes! :O
    • benjaa: woah.... Jukka is the man Guildminer pwns all
    • NaumanAkhlaQ: And JuKKa Is my Her0!

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    I got banned for no reason!

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    Lol people on cheating forums that say they got banned for no reason are funny

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