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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRy View Post
    Fitness/weight loss fall under the same catogory dude. If you're getting fit, you will lose weight. If you're losing weight, you're getting fit. I'm trying to help you. It took a good ten minutes to write that last post. :/
    Thats not exactly true... some people beef out and put on weight by getting fit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrapsp View Post
    Thats not exactly true... some people beef out and put on weight by getting fit...
    Right if that's what you think, then clearly you know better than me. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRy View Post
    Right if that's what you think, then clearly you know better than me. Good luck.
    It's not a matter of think, it's a fact. Some people's weight increases during exercise... No need to make a sarcastic comment just because I'm right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRy View Post
    Fitness/weight loss fall under the same catogory dude. If you're getting fit, you will lose weight. If you're losing weight, you're getting fit. I'm trying to help you. It took a good ten minutes to write that last post. :/
    False. If you starve, you're losing weight and not getting fit.

    I gain a lot of weight when I workout and "get fit" I'll lose some fat around my chest and it'll get tighter, but I'll gain weight.. that being said, I like to have a thin layer of fat everywhere, it's good for survival in the mountains
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    Fitness and weight loss could probably fall under the "health" category, yet they are separate, but not mutually exclusive. You can get fitter without losing any weight (i.e., an elite marathon runner training), and as you guys said, you can gain weight whilst getting fitter (i.e. body builder, muscular hypertrophy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRy View Post
    Right if that's what you think, then clearly you know better than me. Good luck.
    Well if your aim is to be underweight, you will lose weight. Not if you work out though.
    In order to build muscle you need to eat more calories than you burn, and if you didn't you wouldn't make any progress.

    For OP, I'd say stop wondering about it and just go to the gym, check some good program for beginners like SS or G6 and follow it.

    Remember to eat and sleep, that's the most important part of lifting.

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    Lol, i'm done trying to help you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psyno View Post
    Well if your aim is to be underweight, you will lose weight. Not if you work out though.
    In order to build muscle you need to eat more calories than you burn, and if you didn't you wouldn't make any progress.

    For OP, I'd say stop wondering about it and just go to the gym, check some good program for beginners like SS or G6 and follow it.

    Remember to eat and sleep, that's the most important part of lifting.
    Eating more calories than you burn would cause you to put on fat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRy View Post
    Eating more calories than you burn would cause you to put on fat..
    Not necessarily. Generally speaking:

    Energy in > energy out = gain weight
    Energy in < energy out = lose weight
    Energy in = energy out = maintain weight

    Energy in being food and fluid intake, and energy out being a composite of 3 things; physical activity (all bodily movement not just exercise), dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT - which is the energy your body uses to digest food and absorb the nutrients), and basal metabolic rate (BMR - which is the energy your body uses to maintain normal bodily functions, such as cell repair, breathing etc.)

    However, psyno is correct, if you are building lean muscle then you do need to be in a calorific surplus. This is because if you eat just enough calories to maintain your weight, you will not grow (even with the training). However, as the calorific surplus you need to build muscle isn't actually that great, people often put on fat as well. This is why some people go through "bulking" and "cutting" phases when are training for hypertrophy (i.e., muscle growth).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRy View Post
    Lol, i'm done trying to help you guys.
    I'm sorry to break this down for you but this isn't rocket science, it's pretty much the basics of lifting. :/
    Lift, eat, sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRy View Post
    Eating more calories than you burn would cause you to put on fat..
    In most cases, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grats View Post
    In most cases, no.
    ...If you do something else than just sit on your fat arse all day long.

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    They say bikes are easier on the knees but you will get a better workout with a treadmill IMO. Regardless of which one you choose you need to actually use it. If you want to be healthy and feel good then cut the bull and take the initiative to work out at least every other day. Just do it for the ladies

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    You guys are making this much too complicated, it's not like he's preparing for the fucking Olympics.

    Eat good (you can eat a hamburger once and a while)
    Find a segment of time to work out (I personally lift for an hour, take a shower, then go to bed.)
    repeat

    If you can't motivate yourself with the fact that working out helps your body, then that's fine. You can just be a toothpick for the rest of your life.
    Last edited by Echo_; 01-27-2013 at 12:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE MAYOR View Post
    I would say in most cases, yes.
    You would be wrong, though

    depends what types of foods, not calorie count.. Turkey bacon has almost 2k calories a pack, I can eat a few packs a day (which I usually do) I don't gain weight, nor would most people.. and even your brain requires something like 400 calories a day.
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    I've been a toothpick for a long long time. I could eat like it was my last meal and still wouldn't gain a pound. It wasn't untill last year, mind you I'm 20+, that eating has finally started to pack on the pounds. I'm 170 now 6'2, was 120-130 a long time. Some people just have a high metabolism, or is it fast w/e, and no matter what we do we just cant gain weight. Don't want to discourage anyone but its really the body type we have been given (genetics). However gaining weight has kind of motivated me to start training. I mean I finally look, normal, and its given me the little push I needed to step it up a notch and go from normal to better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grats View Post
    depends what types of foods, not calorie coun
    That's a lie bro. Or do you have a source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neznam View Post
    I've been a toothpick for a long long time. I could eat like it was my last meal and still wouldn't gain a pound. It wasn't untill last year, mind you I'm 20+, that eating has finally started to pack on the pounds. I'm 170 now 6'2, was 120-130 a long time. Some people just have a high metabolism, or is it fast w/e, and no matter what we do we just cant gain weight. Don't want to discourage anyone but its really the body type we have been given (genetics). However gaining weight has kind of motivated me to start training. I mean I finally look, normal, and its given me the little push I needed to step it up a notch and go from normal to better.
    Hope ya keep it up

    Tried to gain weight too , I was eating 3 times a day, instead of 1 . (Only lasted like 1 month though, I've ran out on cash that went to beer.. Don't judge me )
    Gained a healthy 5 kilo's, Did cardio + dumbells.
    lazyness is in my genes I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psyno View Post
    That's a lie bro. Or do you have a source?
    Yea: reality


    edit/

    since you'll cry about my truthful post again, here:

    http://calorielab.com/foods/rice/21

    only eat rice for the rest of your life, eat a trillion calories worth per day, you won't gain weight. you'll probably die though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grats View Post
    You would be wrong, though

    depends what types of foods, not calorie count.. Turkey bacon has almost 2k calories a pack, I can eat a few packs a day (which I usually do) I don't gain weight, nor would most people.. and even your brain requires something like 400 calories a day.
    Actually, the opposite is true. Refer to my above post about energy balance. All foods contain calories, albeit food with high fat will have more calories because fat is an energy dense nutrient (refer above post). The sum of all these calories is your energy intake. For example, say over the course of the day all the food you eat amounts to 400g carbohydrate, 150g protein, and 100g fat. Using the atwater factors mentioned above (i.e., CHO has 4 calories per gram, fat has 9), you would work out your total calories:

    CHO: 400 x 4 = 1600 calories
    Pro: 150 x 4 = 600 calories
    Fat: 100 x 9 = 900 calories
    ______
    Total 3100 calories

    So your total energy intake is 3100 calories. If your total energy expenditure for this day (i.e., BMR, DIT, physical activity in above post) is less than 3100 calories, you would store that excess energy. Over a period of time this would lead to weight gain. It is a bit more complicated to calculate energy expenditure, but BMR accounts for approximately 70% of all calories eaten, DIT 10%, and PA 20%. This is getting a bit complex for the purpose of explanation, but just to complicate things, not all calories are equal and 1 calorie in doesn't mean 1 calorie out (i.e., your body may fail to absorb and utilise the entire calorie). Simply:

    energy in > energy out = gain weight

    It doesn't matter whether you have a high metabolism, or a slow metabolism, this still applies. You can think of your metabolism as your BMR + DIT; the energy that your body uses to maintain normal bodily functions. This is different for everyone and changes with age, weight, ethnicity, gender,the amount of physical activity you do, and even what you eat**. Basically, you expend a certain amount of calories over the course of the day to meet your bodies energy needs, any excess calories you haven't used will be stored.

    ** Interesting point I though I might add about eating patterns and metabolism. When you don't eat, your metabolism slows down as a physiological response (i.e., your body thinks there is a famine and it is being starved, so by doing this it is preserving energy). This is why many diets don't work.
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    Cool, didn't read though.. you'll have to come study me and the rest of my family tree.. along with millions of others on this planet who eat more than they burn, and don't gain weight.
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    So by saying that I'm assuming the you know what your precise energy expenditure is, and how many calories you consume by weighing all your food. I'm assuming you stayed overnight at the lab to get your BMR tested through indirect calorimetry and walk around all day with a portable gas analysis machine to calculate your physical activity.

    I don't think that you quite grasp the idea of 'burning energy'. You can sit around all the time not doing anything and still use a lot of calories (BMR etc.). So even though it seems like you are eating more than you are using, it is probably not the case.

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    To prove it to a friend, I consumed 10,000+ calories a day, for 3 months, gained no weight at all... he was in the same boat as you're in right now.

    I don't sit on computers all day and burn that... my normal day is probably around 5k calories, I maybe burn that some days, definitely not all

    I don't gain weight through eating, at all, because I eat constantly and not single big meals in the afternoon.. the only way I can gain weight is if I lift.. which I had to do when I was sick for a few months and lost 20 pounds of muscle about 3-4 years ago.
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    Well grats you're just being an arrogant prick so I'm done trying to help you

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