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    Default 99 Summoning via Crimson Charms (Cost + # to make)

    Four's 99 Summoning Via Crimsons AIO

    As this was requested, I've decided to make it for everyone
    Note: Buy the charming Imp from dungeoneering if you haven't already! It will help you A LOT with your road to 99 summoning.
    It requires level 21 summoning and 21 dungeoneering to buy, and a total of 100k reward tokens


    Please NOTE: The prices/Loss/Profits are as of February 2, 2014. Prices are semi-stable
    To begin this, for methods on collecting crimson charms, check out this guide I made before
    http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91653

    19 summoning - 32 summoning
    Crimson charms begin being used at level 19 summoning.
    The first familiar being Spirit scorpions.
    Secondary ingredient is Bronze claws.

    # of pouches to make
    151 pouches
    Costs

    151 pouches (3gp each) = 453 gp
    151 bronze claws (472 gp each) = 71,272
    8607 Spirit Shards (24 gp each) = 206,568 gp
    Total cost (before selling finished pouch) = 278,263 gp
    Sell pouches on ge = 150,094 gp
    Loss of 128k gp


    32 summoning - 49 summoning
    We will now be making Honey Badgers.
    Secondary ingredient is Honey Combs.

    # of pouches to make
    535 pouches
    Costs

    535 pouches (3gp each) = 1,605 gp
    535 honey combs (490 gp each) = 262,150 gp
    44,940 Spirit Shards (24 gp each) = 1,078,560 gp
    Total cost (before selling finished pouch) = 1,342,315 gp
    Sell pouches on ge = 786,450
    Loss of about 556k gp

    49 summoning - 61 summoning
    We will now be making Bloated Leech pouches
    Secondary ingredient is Raw beef (from the regular COWS, not the expensive one)

    # of pouches to make
    979 pouches
    Costs

    979 pouches (3 gp each) = 8,811 gp
    979 Raw beef (391 gp each) = 382,789 gp
    114,543 Spirit Shards (24 gp each) = 2,751,032 gp
    Total cost (before selling finished pouch) = About 3 million gp
    Sell pouches on ge = 2 million gp
    Loss of 1.1 million gp

    61 summoning - 74 summoning
    We will now be making Smoke devil Pouches
    Secondary ingredient is Goat Horn Dust

    # of pouches to make
    2963 pouches
    Costs

    2963 pouches (3 gp each) = 8869 gp
    2963 Goat Horn Dust (1721 gp each) = 5,099,323 gp
    417,783 Spirit Shards (24 gp each) = 10,026,792
    Total cost (before selling finished pouch) = 12,227,601 gp
    Sell pouches on ge = 7,247,498 gp
    Loss of 7.9 million gp

    74 summoning - 96 summoning
    This is the beginning of the looooong stretch
    We will be making Granite Lobsters
    Secondary ingredient is Granite(500 g)

    # of pouches to make
    26,377 pouches
    Costs

    26,377 pouches (3 gp each) = 79,131 gp
    26,377 Granite 500 g (445 gp each) = 11,737,765 gp
    4,378,582 Spirit Shards (24 gp each) = 105,085,968 gp
    Total cost (before selling finished pouch) = 116,902,864 gp
    Sell pouches on ge = 77.2 million ,gp
    Loss of 39.7 million gp

    96 summoning - 99 summoning
    At last, the final path to 99
    We will be making Pak Yak pouches
    Secondary ingredient is Yak-Hide

    # of pouches to make
    7931 pouches
    Costs

    7,931 pouches (3 gp each) = 23,793 gp
    7,931 Yak-Hides (503 gp each) = 3,989,293 gp
    1,673,441 Spirit Shards (24 gp each) = 40,162,584 gp
    Total cost (before selling finished pouch) = 44,175,670 gp
    Sell pouches on ge = 30.5 million gp
    Loss of 13.7 million gp

    Total Loss from 19-99 Summoning
    63 million gp


    I hope this guide was able to help you get a clear understanding on the costs and depths of training summoning. Leave feedback! Thanks!
    - Jakee

    EDIT:
    Turpinator found a neat calculator and created his own spreadsheet!! that can also help you out VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
    Quote Originally Posted by Turpinator View Post
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UE&output=html

    Just wrote that up a few minutes ago. Gets prices from the GE and then computes using your numbers. (feel free to use it)

    also my favorite summoning calculator ive ever found was this... http://users.telenet.be/glodenox/Cha...rmPattern.html
    Charm Pattern. Its written in java by some dude. basically you just enter the charms you have and your xp. it will tell you the best way to get the most xp. It even allows for cost calculations (provided you enter prices) and allows you to remove pouches from the list.

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    Thank you for the guide. I bet a lot of people will find it useful.

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    Prices are as of Today (January 7th), will do my best to keep them updated only when the prices have dropped/increased by a hefty amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakee View Post
    Prices are as of Today (January 7th), will do my best to keep them updated only when the prices have dropped/increased by a hefty amount.
    Love this guide! Would you mind if I linked to it in my Waterfiends script thread once it is done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRLKing View Post
    Love this guide! Would you mind if I linked to it in my Waterfiends script thread once it is done?
    You're more than welcome to King! Dont mind it at all :P

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    Summoning will be one of my last 99s but it will be worth it! Bookmarked#

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    Ah youre close to getting this long await goal Jakee. Great guide and thanks!

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    Wow thank you so much for this. Was actualy looking for something like this.... Looks like I need around 30m more crimson charms haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sogalishis View Post
    Wow thank you so much for this. Was actualy looking for something like this.... Looks like I need around 30m more crimson charms haha.
    I guess thats 30K charms, not 30M. Goodluck getting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentcore View Post
    I guess thats 30K charms, not 30M. Goodluck getting them.
    Well there is always the service to use
    I am at 74 summoning with charms still to use. You will have other charms I would assume to use so you can cut the 30k back a bit :P
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    Very good guide, Jakee. I love all your guides.

    Will definitely be using this. Will you eventually add the other charms to the guide or is it just a crimson charm guide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris! View Post
    Very good guide, Jakee. I love all your guides.

    Will definitely be using this. Will you eventually add the other charms to the guide or is it just a crimson charm guide?
    This is just crimson charms only since its the most used charms for summoning.
    I'll see if I will add a blue charm guide, but greens and gold charms are pretty much useless and self explanatory :P

    Thanks again for your comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakee View Post
    You're more than welcome to King! Dont mind it at all :P
    Thankyou very much

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    wut 56m that's cheaper than expected. will probably do some swamps and geysers though, granite lobs are bit slow. just wait for dem bonus weekends that jagex keeps throwing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chongc View Post
    wut 56m that's cheaper than expected. will probably do some swamps and geysers though, granite lobs are bit slow. just wait for dem bonus weekends that jagex keeps throwing out.
    Yeah it is kinda cheap, Even better with BXPW. Last BXPW I fell short of 96 summoning by 600 crimsons.

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    I will be following this guide thanks to you, and to Silentcores awesome services!
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    Quote Originally Posted by US Marine View Post
    I will be following this guide thanks to you, and to Silentcores awesome services!
    I need to use his services soon

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    Nice guide Jakee, doing Yaks from 96-99 should buff the exp per hour! For people who want to be more conservative on money should keep doing lobsters all the way to 99

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    Jakee, you are really a helpful guy , will yoiu answer some more question about summoning?
    How do you evaluate the value of different kind of charms? I already know that the blue charm is the best, and the exp gain from gold charm is very poor.
    EDIT:
    I have found the answer I want on wikia. Someone has make a picture to show the value of each charms already, but it didn't written in the summoning training guide. Instead, it was discuss in charm page.
    http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Charms
    Last edited by freezeyp; 01-20-2013 at 01:49 AM.

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    Think you should add swamp titans into your guide? They can save you some charms in the end, just costs a little extra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirenia View Post
    Nice guide Jakee, doing Yaks from 96-99 should buff the exp per hour! For people who want to be more conservative on money should keep doing lobsters all the way to 99
    Yes it does! I was doing yaks, maxed at around 900k xp/hour
    Quote Originally Posted by freezeyp View Post
    Jakee, you are really a helpful guy , will yoiu answer some more question about summoning?
    How do you evaluate the value of different kind of charms? I already know that the blue charm is the best, and the exp gain from gold charm is very poor.
    EDIT:
    I have found the answer I want on wikia. Someone has make a picture to show the value of each charms already, but it didn't written in the summoning training guide. Instead, it was discuss in charm page.
    http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Charms
    Good find, I use that page and the wiki to see what the highest pouch I can make depending on the charm, compare the xp/cost ratio, and then the profit/loss if there is any if Converting to scrolls.

    I would just stick to crimsons and Blues

    Quote Originally Posted by US Marine View Post
    Think you should add swamp titans into your guide? They can save you some charms in the end, just costs a little extra.
    I didn't add swamp titan solely because of the cost :P If you want, Heres a picture

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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UE&output=html

    Just wrote that up a few minutes ago. Gets prices from the GE and then computes using your numbers. (feel free to use it)

    also my favorite summoning calculator ive ever found was this... http://users.telenet.be/glodenox/Cha...rmPattern.html
    Charm Pattern. Its written in java by some dude. basically you just enter the charms you have and your xp. it will tell you the best way to get the most xp. It even allows for cost calculations (provided you enter prices) and allows you to remove pouches from the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turpinator View Post
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UE&output=html

    Just wrote that up a few minutes ago. Gets prices from the GE and then computes using your numbers. (feel free to use it)

    also my favorite summoning calculator ive ever found was this... http://users.telenet.be/glodenox/Cha...rmPattern.html
    Charm Pattern. Its written in java by some dude. basically you just enter the charms you have and your xp. it will tell you the best way to get the most xp. It even allows for cost calculations (provided you enter prices) and allows you to remove pouches from the list.
    Looks neat
    Ill add it to the OP
    and check your 'Settings' for a surprise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakee View Post
    Looks neat
    Ill add it to the OP
    and check your 'Settings' for a surprise

    I only found 1 thing. I made the other.
    Think i should make a quick tut on how to make those spreadsheets? the main part is just 1 code snippet, but some people think its impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turpinator View Post

    I only found 1 thing. I made the other.
    Think i should make a quick tut on how to make those spreadsheets? the main part is just 1 code snippet, but some people think its impossible.
    Fixed it
    And yeah you should, because I have no knowledge about those spreadsheets/how you grab the prices :P

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