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    Default Jagex to hold a poll on having separate 2007 Runescape Servers

    http://services.runescape.com/m=news...scape-you-vote


    2007 - Old School RuneScape... You Vote!
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    Hi everyone,

    Last week, Mod Mark posted a thread on our forums highlighting some of the nostalgic and often passionate discussions within the community around a desired return of an ‘old school’ version of RuneScape. Specifically, the fine vintages of 2006 & 2007 appeared to be the high point of collective interest. Our team then set out to see if we had a backup that went that far back; if restoring the backup was even technically possible; and what specific content these potential old RuneScape backups might contain.

    The team has spent many late nights and the past weekend digging through dusty old backups and restoring them, in the hope of finding more than just the old IT manager's MP3 collection of 80s rock power ballads! ?

    Finally, I’m very happy to report that we have indeed managed to recover a full RuneScape backup from August 2007. This is a complete snapshot of the game, which we have been able to verify would work, with some time and effort invested in it. Ironically, in October 2007 we actually changed our backup systems, so we have no complete content versions from August onwards that are viable for this purpose.

    As I said at the start of the year, we’re all very focused on making this year fun, memorable and special to you, and a significant part of realising this mission is giving you a big say in what we focus on. That said, a huge amount has either changed or been improved since the heady days of 2007. The game has evolved, as have our tech, systems, and infrastructure. There will be a substantial amount of work involved to get these ‘old school’ servers back up and running again. However, if enough people support this project, this will be neither unachievable, nor a hindrance to the main game.

    So, just like the poll for the return of the Wildy & Free Trade, which saw a jaw dropping 1.4 million votes , we will be running a similar poll and letting you - our valued members - decide the fate of ‘Old School RuneScape', given that you directly fund the game's ongoing development and supporting services. This decision - along with the level of service, investment and potentially any additional fee for the service - is truly up to you to determine.

    However, before we invest any further resource into this project, we need to accurately gauge your level of support by understanding how many of you are really behind ‘Old School RuneScape’ as it was in August 2007. As such, we will set up a poll this week for players to show their interest in the 2007 service.

    But before I get into the specifics, there is one thing that is very important to note. If this idea gathers sufficient support, then we will not need to take our current talent away from all of the exciting updates to be implemented into the current version of the game, as we will be able to hire a new dedicated team to work specifically on this project.

    By giving you the choice to play either version of the game, we are demonstrating our commitment to listen and - wherever possible - incorporate your feedback. In the long term, we hope that this project will bring back many veteran players, as well as possibly encourage new players to join. They will be able to relive their old game experience to their heart's content, and - if they so choose - perhaps even join the main game. Over the next couple of months and subsequent years, we have an ever-growing plethora of exciting content waiting to be deployed into the Evolution of Combat, regardless of the reinstatement of old servers.

    That being said, we have set out the following targets to help us figure out how much focus and resource we should put into this project:

    Level 1 - 50,000 or more votes:

    2007 servers will come back as a separate entity to the current Runescape game, with an additional membership fee of around $15. These servers will receive no content updates and only critical maintenance.

    Level 2 - 250,000 or more votes:

    2007 servers will come back as a separate entity to the main Runescape game, supported by a small development team, with a smaller additional membership fee of around $5 extra. These servers will receive basic maintenance for bug fixes and little improvements, with the possibility of integrating our modern anti-bot technology over time, if it becomes necessary.

    Level 3 - 500,000 or more votes:

    2007 servers will come back as a separate entity to the main RuneScape game, with a dedicated development team, with no extra membership fee. These servers will receive regular maintenance, some content updates and integration of anti-bot technology if necessary.

    Level 4 - 750,000 or more votes:

    2007 Servers will come back as a separate entity to the main RuneScape game, with a larger dedicated development team with no extra membership fee and the free portion of the game available to all. These servers will receive continuous maintenance, modern anti-bot technology if necessary and - crucially - regular members' polls to determine which updates you want to see prioritised.

    These servers, at any of the above levels, would be the exact version from back in 2007 and would maintain the ‘old school’ vibe and rules. The old graphics, hiscores, log-in, are all part of the same archived build and would be retained. We wouldn’t ever add any micropayment updates.
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    Stuff that, RS is fine how it is at the moment..
    This is just taking dev. time away from '2k13' RS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Stuff that, RS is fine how it is at the moment..
    This is just taking dev. time away from '2k13' RS.
    Nope.

    But before I get into the specifics, there is one thing that is very important to note. If this idea gathers sufficient support, then we will not need to take our current talent away from all of the exciting updates to be implemented into the current version of the game, as we will be able to hire a new dedicated team to work specifically on this project.
    Last edited by Daniel; 02-18-2013 at 01:00 AM. Reason: Removed quoted foul language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Nope.
    Umm... yes. They're rerouting people from the main RS dev team to the private server...? That's going to cut into dev time.
    Less time = less updates

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    At the quote, let me get you another one:
    "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape."
    Oh... Well this is awkward.



    Found that amusing, i've been playing RS since 2k6, and would hate for it to go back.


    What people don't understand is that it'll be 2006 RS (Horrible graphics, no content at all, no quests, hardly any fun) with the 2k13 community.
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    I'd bot that, and Castle Wars that. Where do we actually cast our vote? I've not yet seen the specific page for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    I'd bot that, and Castle Wars that. Where do we actually cast our vote? I've not yet seen the specific page for that.
    I think it said the poll starts Friday, so keep an eye out

    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Umm... yes. They're rerouting people from the main RS dev team to the private server...? That's going to cut into dev time.
    Less time = less updates
    It's almost as if you didn't read it:

    But before I get into the specifics, there is one thing that is very important to note. If this idea gathers sufficient support, then we will not need to take our current talent away from all of the exciting updates to be implemented into the current version of the game, as we will be able to hire a new dedicated team to work specifically on this project.

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    How will they pay for this new team if they do not charge membership for the '07 server?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Stuff that, RS is fine how it is at the moment..
    This is just taking dev. time away from '2k13' RS.
    Agreed with the first point. A little bit with the last one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    How will they pay for this new team if they do not charge membership for the '07 server?
    The two lowest vote-options both have additional membership fees, the higher ones I would assume that they are hoping to collect membership fees from players that had quit and are now returning. This will bring back a lot of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWxi View Post
    I think it said the poll starts Friday, so keep an eye out



    It's almost as if you didn't read it:
    Read my quote...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Stuff that, RS is fine how it is at the moment..
    This is just taking dev. time away from '2k13' RS.
    +1

    Making RS07 seems pointless, it will be dead content after people realize they can't be bothered to train anymore and everyone bots the hell out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Read my quote...
    Your quote:
    "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape."
    How is this relevant to a 2007 based Runescape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWxi View Post
    Your quote:


    How is this relevant to a 2007 based Runescape?
    ._______.
    Andrew Gower made that 'promise' in 2007/2008, and it is now broken. What's to say it wont happen again? You really expect Jagex will hire new people and shell out MORE money just to please a small population of RS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazzah View Post
    +1

    Making RS07 seems pointless, it will be dead content after people realize they can't be bothered to train anymore and everyone bots the hell out of it.
    I personally think the demand for the older-style servers revolves around PvP content and ol-style combat. That's probably what's driving these people to want them back so much.


    If these were made it wouldn't effect anything in the current Runescape; none of the developers would devote any time to this, it would be maintained by a new, separate team. And obviously, this would be optional to play. For those of you competing in the highscores this would also benefit you as separate servers are sure to draw in a very large number of current players, thus lowering your competition. Perhaps this also applies to bots as there will be a mass demand for supplies and such.

    Something like this can only benefit everyone, I don't see the downside to it. All I can think of is if the vote count doesn't reach 500,000 and Members must pay an additional fee.

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    But would we have to start again? I'd love to bring back my 1 def pure... I don't want to make another But then, I guess I could bot it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    ._______.
    Andrew Gower made that 'promise' in 2007/2008, and it is now broken. What's to say it wont happen again? You really expect Jagex will hire new people and shell out MORE money just to please a small population of RS?
    The reason I originally quoted you was because you said something that you would have known was incorrect if you'd read the OP, which is why I was led to believe that you hadn't.

    You lose nothing from voting yes. Worst case scenario: they add micro-payments later, although I don't think this is likely.

    In any case, nobody is forcing you to give up your beloved spot on the high scores. Are you worried that your achievements will appear less significant if there are less active players who are worse then you?

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    Everyone vote yes. Vote yes for better future, a better RS, a better life for your kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWxi View Post
    The reason I originally quoted you was because you said something that you would have known was incorrect if you'd read the OP, which is why I was led to believe that you hadn't.

    You lose nothing from voting yes. Worst case scenario: they add micro-payments later, although I don't think this is likely.

    In any case, nobody is forcing you to give up your beloved spot on the high scores. Are you worried that your achievements will appear less significant if there are less active players who are worse then you?
    Wait what, when did hiscores come into this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin View Post
    Wait what, when did hiscores come into this?
    I made the (possibly incorrect) assumption that your position on the highscores altered your opinion on Jagex reviving runescape 2007. Sorry if this was inaccurate on my part.

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    So no rares in the '07 servers then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    I personally think the demand for the older-style servers revolves around PvP content and ol-style combat. That's probably what's driving these people to want them back so much.


    If these were made it wouldn't effect anything in the current Runescape; none of the developers would devote any time to this, it would be maintained by a new, separate team. And obviously, this would be optional to play. For those of you competing in the highscores this would also benefit you as separate servers are sure to draw in a very large number of current players, thus lowering your competition. Perhaps this also applies to bots as there will be a mass demand for supplies and such.

    Something like this can only benefit everyone, I don't see the downside to it. All I can think of is if the vote count doesn't reach 500,000 and Members must pay an additional fee.
    Yes, but in order for the pking community to be happy they will need skillers (most likely other pkers) to get them sharks and super att/str/ect. All of these will be botted right away. And soon the gp on the 2007 server will be in the same situation as the gp on the current RS.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMWxi View Post
    I made the (possibly incorrect) assumption that your position on the highscores altered your opinion on Jagex reviving runescape 2007. Sorry if this was inaccurate on my part.
    Sin is not ranked all the high on the overall rankings. Higher than most people on these forums, but not that high.

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